@Zubari,
Have you been to PAF Muesem @ Karachi City? There is a MiG-21Bis on Show which defected in 1988.. I have seen it with my own eyes.. as well as An-24 hich also defected to Pakistan we operated it for a while …so you are wrong!

Hi,
Thats a south African Developed LGB.This LGB is of the 250kg variety and use a unique seeker head with 8 fins.

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Syed Shais ALi

Hi,
By looking at the picture of JF-17 ..i also have some Doubts…

1st. that is Prototype 01..where are the wing fences…next The Plane sharply banking right..so where is Vortex? they always show over wing ..the posture is agressive its is I Think PS..

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Syed Shais Ali

Hi,
And people still say i make claims and all..I hope that that they recieve them sooner or then later..

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Syed Shais Ali

Hi,
Mavaustin: exactly my point ..there are brochere figures and real time operational figures you take most recent Greece Version of Erieye and what we are evaluating these days..diffrence of versions and performance depends on where it is deployed Geography and whole lot..My objection still stands..what do you mean by tailored after the customer specs out the plane according to their need..I think what we are evaluating right now does need some tailoring.

By the way Did PAF ever evaluted E-2s in Middle 80s?

Dassualt: I don`t know what i have done to you but you keep coming up to attack me personaly every time I post..if i was wrong about possible purchase of F-16s and i did said figure of 24 with delivery setup of 8 and 16 …you go ahead and see ACIG where i Claimed that ..and go ahead read recent reports they say 25 i was very close ……don`t just go around posting give me perfect and to the point replies so we can convince each other ..may be you still belive like lots of my Country men that M.M Alam Did shootdown 5 aircraft in one sortie even my popular Uncle Belives That Too..
And go ahead give me one proof of R-Darter or T-Darter in Pakistan ..Do have any Idea Grifo M can support T-Darter or R-Darter was .have you ever seen T-Darter operationaly deployed on SAAF Cheetah C/D….thats about it..do you know..Convince me that PAF has BVR AAM by decent post in discriptive Manner..not just Bash Bash!!!

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Syed Shais Ali

H2 & H4

Hi,
Both of these products are A2G weapons as for AAMs PAF doesn`t have any BVR weapons at all..

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MiG-Master

Hold It!!!

Hi,
I am Sorry that i am stopping the party but..I would like to make something clear..yes F-16s are on the list as always but only 28 Units first tranch 8 aircraft 2nd tranch 16 aircraft 3rd 04 aircraft..but they are not MLU status……….

I must tell the people that PAF hasn`t Upgraded MLU ..in her inventory..all what has happend is F-16A/B Block 15S -OCU Standard..thats it!!!

We must not live in a dream land..The F-16s which we will recieve if ever would be Block 15 standard..PAF can`t Support Block 50s or 60s let alone 40s …i must remind they are stop Gaps..who said anything about 60 follow on Order…this is fictious..thats all its not truth..

Right Now PAF is Testing Erieye on Saab 2000..in Pakistan Conditions Early results are below average..she is not 360..range is not what is said earlier..plus Saab-2000 is not Special in Our Climate..although Pluses are intregrated System of Erieye with GCI Network in Excellent…they are No Gripens nor we want one……
Plus There are no AMRAAMS in the List..people are you crazy AIM-120C5…for God Sake..PAF F-16sBlock 15OCU Are not able to Fire AIM-120Bs talking of C5 is fiction…….

Well some of the latest news about Aircrafts F-7PGs now fully Operational With Grifo 7 radars ..PAF has started developing Large Strike Package & Escort Tactics as well As Counter Tactics of Engaging Large Strike Packages What i seem to understand that PAF is changed in Low Level AirForce with Emphasis on under 1000Ft Operations……and Anti BVR Attacks Tatics

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MiG_Master

PS: Very Very Recent 02 Months Back!

Hi,
The Pictures are of PIA group testing SAAB-2000s ….remmeber i said PIA has bought them..16 units

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MiG_Master