The newly built aircraft will have to called ‘Mumbai’ ! 😀
Bristol Mumbai – no, doesn’t sound right, does it. Lovely aeroplane, though!
Bring back the Bristol Bombay :p
Bruce – trying to send you a PM, but your PM Box is full!
Does anyone know what is going to happen to the Harrier force (and spares). I would imagine that the cost of mothballing the fleet would be a cost-effective insurance measure – just in case!
Pity they aren’t flying over Hull :O(…
I guess we will have to ask Spain if we want to see a Harrier flying at an airshow next year.
When Concorde retired I was sad, with the Harrier my blood is boiling and maybe it’s best that they don’t fly overhead. Yep, it’s on Look North News.
I wonder how much of the control tower (above) is original? Looks good though!
I really have had enough of these [RUDE WORD] politicians who run this country. The [ANOTHER RUDE WORD] are worth more than an entire division in our enemies forces, if you know what I mean.
Get this: I can go to Pakistan and learn how to strip down an AK47 and make IEDs. I can then go to Afghanistan and kill one or two British soldiers, and they would call me a terrorist.
OR I can get an education to degree level and brown nose myself up the political ladder and gain the power and the influence – sufficient to cancel defence budgets and disband entire squadrons of Harrier GR9s or army regiments and they’d not only give me a ruddy good pension, but they would also give me a knighthood or a seat in the Lords.
IT STINKS!!!
Oh and if the Forum MODS are worried about the content of this message, I have only one thing to say:
SAVE RAF DRIFFIELD!!!
If we need a nuclear deterrent then the delivery system must be affordable, which means handing over the launch keys to the RAF/FAA (The USAF expect the F35 to be able to carry nuclear weapons). That will save 90% of the cost of replacing Trident.
Merging the three armed services doesn’t work and has never been proven to be cost effective – all it does is undermine morale.
The problem is that BAE Systems are so tightly joined to the MoD at the hip that the tax-payer pays for some of BAE Systems overheads (even before we pay for such luxuries as weapons and weapon delivery systems). We are told that we are building two large aircraft carriers because it would be too expensive to cancel – what rubbish. If the government really wanted to save money they could have put a gun to the head of BAE Systems (hypothetically speaking) and we would have been able to walk away from these two expensive carriers – paying for work already undertaken. I personally think we have to stop buying from BAE Systems and buy off-the-shelf.
I would rather have the MoD design a hybrid destroyer/aircraft carrier that would be smaller than HMS Ark Royal but larger than the Type 45 Destroyer. It would carry the same weapon systems, but be able to carry around eight harriers/F35s and two to four helicopters. And for the price of just one giant aircraft carriers and four Type 45s we could have built six hybrid warships as described above.
The problem with the Harrier is that it never really evolved. My understanding it that originally the aircraft was to have been supersonic but the government said NO, so if we are to retain a V/STOL aircraft it has to be the F35.
While the Harrier was designed to be used in Europe from makeshift woodland clearings, it was ideal for carrier operations using much cheaper and smaller ships. It’s use also in recent conflicts was also valuable – then again maybe a squadron of turbo-powered Spitfires would have just been as effective against men with spears (okay, AK47s and IEDs).
Goodbye Harrier. Goodbye Nimrod MR4. Goodbye Britain. Maybe we should have left the Germans to have over the country in 1940 or the Russians in the 1950/60/70s – can’t see ’em doing any worse.
We cannot afford to have both Harrier and Tornado.*
We are lucky to still have what we have believe me.
I left the RAF this year after 32 years service. Am I glad I have left? Yes.
Did I enjoy it? Yes.
Do I feel sad that the Harrier is going so soon? yes.
I left school around 28 years ago and have done little with my life. Do I wish I had joined the RAF? Yes.
Would I have enjoyed it? Even if I had joined for three years in the British Army I would have enjoyed it, and become a better person.
Do I feel sad that the Harrier is going so soon? My blood is boiling. In the end this county will have a nuclear deterrent – towed behind horses. That’s what is important to the unmentionables of Whitehall – horses (for Troop in the Colour) and nuclear weapons. Everything else is surplus against traditional and ill-conceived mindset.
Now having gone off on one, and to keep the Forum MODs happy: Daddy or Chips?
Or rather what would you sacrifice to retain the Harriers or Nimrod MR4 – BBMF or Red Arrows?
Many thanks for the information Alan, very much appreciated and passed onto Jim Jamieson with thanks.
Phil Rhodes
You could always build him the Airfix 1/24th scale Spitfire Mk1. My dad built one while on detachment (airfield calibration flights out of RAF Benson) in the 1970s.
It took him weeks to build and paint and was superb – couldn’t fault it. I liked it. I liked it a lot. The pitot tube broke off within minutes and the wreckage (minus propellers and wheels and cockpit canopy and aerial) was thrown out with the rubbish a few days later. That was nearly 40 years ago and I still feel guilty. Sorry Dad.
Personally I wish you hadn’t posted these excellent images. I’m so ruddy disgusted at what is happening to the RAF. I’m ashamed to be British. We invented the Harrier! 🙁
Apologies if this post upsets a few people.
I am aware that the cost of moving Comet XK699 from Lyneham to Cosford is around £50,000, so I suspect the cost of moving Nimrod XV235 will be much greater.
Regarding the new Sea Vixen kit, I’m pleased that Airfix have started to reintroduce its RAF roundel decals complete and not produce them with a separate red dot, which were a nightmare to accurately position them on a model, and was one reason why I gave up model making.
I reviewed the book a few nights ago as I’ve got a half finished drawing prepared to turn it in to an RC scale model when I get the time (some hope). That article was based on a conversation RR had with Mrs. Bruce although it doesn’t say when the conversation took place and I’m afraid I don’t have the book to hand to give details of the publisher or date of publication. I can give the details if anyone is interested. It’s a very interesting book with some interesting and curious machines in it.
Plans are already available for a 1/4 scale R/C model: http://shop.traplet.com/product.aspx?c=523