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March 28, 2005 at 1:11 am in reply to: British Aircraft paint code numbers – please help? #1381324

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Thanks guys. That’s cleare up the green, but the yellow is a puzzle.

I already had the FS 33538 number, but surely there must have been a British number? Or was all trainer yellow paint sourced from the USA??

Aircraft like Tiger Moths, Magisters, Oxfords and many others were made in the UK. Surely they must have used locally sourced paint which would have come under the British Standard?

What do they use these days? At Shuttleworth, IWM, and other collections? Do you have the paint mixed to a BS 381c number? Or do you actually use a FS 595 standard when getting the supplier to mix the paint? I always found it odd I cannot find the BS number.

Thanks anyway guys.

March 27, 2005 at 2:59 pm in reply to: British Aircraft paint code numbers – please help? #1381848

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Thanks Jeepman

March 27, 2005 at 12:23 am in reply to: Can anyone ID the plane on the left #1382460

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That’s a great website and a wonderful collection which has sprung up almost overnight, as it were. I shall have to try to get to the next Wings Over Wairarapa airshow I think. I cannot wait to see the Hind flying. It looked beautiful when I saw it at the Subritzkys’ workshops.

Wow, I never knew there was more than one Wairarapa Wildcat, and that one exists. Brilliant. I loved it when the Hanna’s had their P40E in that scheme, it looks rubbish now in comparsion IMHO.

March 23, 2005 at 10:08 am in reply to: Anybody want to buy a P-51? #1387494

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It may be a Byron kitset rather than one of the much larger, specially built airshow Mustangs. That is the worst sheme I’ve ever seen on a Mustang by the way! I agree – repaint it. Nice kit though.

March 23, 2005 at 9:59 am in reply to: DH2 & Ffalz air 2 air #1387498

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Wow. Wonderful shots. I love the DH2 – even looks like WWI trenches below too.

March 23, 2005 at 9:55 am in reply to: RAF Andover replacement #1387501

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Nice shots Martin, thanks. I loved the VIP scheme (blue and white) it really gave the Andover a special look. But then it looked great in any sheme.

The first time I saw an Andover was when I was 9 years old, in April 1980. I was on holiday with my parents and sister and some friends at Norfolk Island, and one flew in. I think Dad must have seen it approaching the island because we drove down to the airport for a look. It was just taxiing in and then did the famous squat. That was the first Air Force plane I ever saw on the ground close up. I never knew then that I’d later fly in them as an airman.

I remember in 1990 before the first Gulf War we had Andovers with the UN in Iran (Tehran in fact). As it was strictly a dry country, when engines and parts were shipped over cans of beer and dirty magazines were apparently secreted into every orifice, nook and cranny for the Kiwi boys over there!

March 22, 2005 at 10:07 am in reply to: RAF Andover replacement #1388916

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Great photo FlyingKiwi – do you know the year per chance? I was there for Wings and Wheels 91 and 92.

The HS748 operated in New Zealand too with Mount Cook Airlines for many years, and I saw the odd Aussie RAAF one visiting here. I don’t think the type has half as much charm as the Andover personally. It doesn’t even have a name! (does it?)

I am really curious as to whether the ex-RNZAF examples that were flying for the UN are still being operated anywhere. Anyone know?

March 21, 2005 at 1:08 pm in reply to: Period Dress #1390565

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🙂 😎

March 21, 2005 at 12:52 pm in reply to: RAF Andover replacement #1390578

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Cheers for the info. So Kodak, did our ten not come directly from the Middle East then? They arrived in desert camo, a snd/brown scheme with reflective white above the cockpit.

How many did the RAF use in total? I knoe the Empire Test Pilots School had at least one, and there were some at Farnborough, weren’t there?

Did anyone else use them other than the UK and NZ? Did anyone buy any when we got ours?

I wonder what became of all ours in the end. One is at Wigram. I think at least one was broken up, and last I herd three had gone to a Belgian {?} company contracting to the UN back in about 1994/95. I’ve seen nothing of any apart from the Wigram museum one since. Does the RAF have one of their’s in or earmarked for preservation?

They were brilliant aircraft, and never seemed outdated even in the 1990’s. I really liked their practicallity and I loved seeing them do that squat they could do. We never properly replaced our’s either.

March 21, 2005 at 10:25 am in reply to: Would love to see your A-2 Nose Art Jacket posted here! #1390756

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Dave

Greetings, I assume you are speaking of the huge scale RC models that fought a WWII battle. I think the guy was from Iowa in the states, I have this story on my pitch reel at work somewhere, they even had a Iwo Jima flying raising.
Huge scale B-29 flew in this mock battle, compete with battleships and landing craft. Will do a search and find out where and who it is ! I think you have the correct name. Usually had it around our national holiday…July 4!!!!

Thanks!

BlueNoser352!

Yep, he was from Ida Grove, Iowa and was a big entreprenuer there. His airfield (for full sized and models) looked gorgeous from memory. The man’s name was Byron Goberson, with a ‘b’, I had originaly got his name wrong as Godferson, sorry. He was quite an innovator in the R/C aircraft world apparently.

The earlier video Dad had gotten from somewhere was fairly tame, mainly P51D’s versus Zero’s, but the other video was later from 1987 I now recall was called “Striking Back” and that was the massive one. These were just two of many annual airshows he put on I understand. For more proof, there is something about the 1987 video here
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/striking_back/

And an obit of Byron here
http://www.tenmilelake.org/obitarchive/obit2003.htm#Byron%20Godbersen

Form that obit I took this
“To help promote his new line of RC airplanes, he began to hold demonstrations and annual shows for RC modelers. As interest grew, so did the show, and in the mid-1980s, Byron=s Aviation Expo was born. The Expo, a five-day extravaganza dubbed “The World’s Most Unique Aviation Event,” drew over 50,000 model airplane enthusiasts to Ida Grove annually through 1991. The show became too big for Ida Grove, was sold, and became the Des Moines Aviation Expo. In 1987, Byron Originals was spun off as a separate company; Byron’s son Bruce is the current president.”

Has anyone been to these unique model airshows? (Sorry to have gone so off topic from the jackets guys)

I’d love to see Striking Back again. I wonder if susequent shows have been as good, and if they were filmed.

March 21, 2005 at 9:45 am in reply to: Period Dress #1390783

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There are some great photos on that YANKS link that go4b17 put up. Thanks for that. I notice even a Home Guard who looks a lot like a certain Private Frazer!

For people interested in WWII re-enactment and nostalgia this is a great site too, with a guest book that can help you find what you need
http://www.cc41.net/guestbook.html

March 21, 2005 at 9:34 am in reply to: Period Dress #1390916

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Great uniform go4b17, you look to have stepped straight out of Twelve O’clock High

I wish they had such events here in NZ.

March 21, 2005 at 7:15 am in reply to: Australian International Air Show #1391135

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Great photos. I never knew the RAAF had Hawks either.

Yes, both the middle and right photos in post 10 are Wilgas. They are amazing aircraft. One was based at RNZAF Wigram in about 1992 and used by the police for spotting dope crops in the bush. The aircraft can virtually hover, and the cops found it cheaper to run than a chopper. They make an amazing noise too.

March 21, 2005 at 5:27 am in reply to: Fairey Battle #1391141

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Here is a shot of the same Battle wreckage, taken by me the same day as Hairy.

March 21, 2005 at 12:19 am in reply to: General Discussion #367697

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He’s very popular here in NZ too. I don’t really like his cooking shows – I agree Steve that Rick Stein is excellent. I always thought Jamie Oliver was a git too, till I saw his series where he set up the restaurant with the loser kids. He has a lot of patience and generosity, and seems to really genuinely care about people.

My best mate is English – he used to work for Smeg and he says Jamie used to often ring up regarding his various appliances. Mike says he was the most polite and most well regarded of all their many customers, he never made any trouble even when Smeg was at fault.

As a kid I used to see shows on TV where kids at school were served lunch (dinner) in the UK and USA, things like Grange Hill, etc, and I always wished we had that here. I’d have loved a decent cooked meal rather than soggy or stale sandwiches brought from home. Well, it always looked good on television anyway.
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