NII_VVS – I’m in regular contact with Mr Cooper… Please check your PM’s.

What on earth are you talking about? So, all the good people who frequent this forum and others like it who spend their time and effort and no little money on erecting Memorials to various crews etc. are wasting their time because having two makes one “nul and void”? What few? Which few? Are you even aware that 55,000 Bomber Command aircrew were killed? How can you ever have enough Memorials to repay the massive debt we owe. I would venture to suggest that Just Jane is as much of a Memorial to the crews of Bomber Command as PA474, possibly even more so in many respects. A Veteran seeing PA474 in flight can be reduced to tears, it is an amazing sight. But have you ever been to EK and seen the emotions flood out of a Veteran who has just been back aboard? Or who has just watched the re-enactors standing around the aircraft just before it starts up for an evening taxi run? Ever seen them open up and start sharing memories which have been locked away for the last 65 years?

Two Typhoon pilots were shot down and a member here did an incredible amount of research into their deaths. They are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial to the Missing as they were shot down into the sea. The forumite continued his research and arranged for, and erected a Memorial to these two young pilots on the very farm on which one grew up. He bought the brother of the one pilot and the sister of the other together for the unveiling, he arranged a flypast by Jaguars from Coltishall and over 100 people attended the unveiling and Service of Dedication. Their names were Johnny Wiseman and Alan ‘Babe’ Haddon of 609 Squadron and they were killed on the 14th of February 1943. Try doing a forum search for their names to see what he achieved.

Of course, by your standards, he, and we, were wasting our time in paying tribute to these two men. Choose your words carefully, the deaths you trivialise were someone’s son, husband, father and brother. Not worthy of two Memorials? A thousand Memorials wouldn’t even begin to express the meanings of their deaths.

Regards.

kev35

I’ll second that!

This has got to be elf n safety nonsense…..:eek:

I can remember appalling mud fests at UK airshows back in the 1980’s and earlier and not being cancelled, especially at this late hour.

What a feckin joke….as others have said, there will be many that won’t know about this until at or near the Fairford tomorrow:(

Glad I’m going to DX instead.

I think Legends numbers will be up as a result.

Health and safety or not, I think they had little choice in the matter. I have just traveled back from Poland this morning at some crazy hour to help my father set a stall up at RIAT. We got onto Fairford and decided to call it day before they announced that it was canceled… Its just not possible to hold a display in those conditions. We couldn’t even set up which is why we left for home… The carparks are already trashed and at least one of the main camp sites had to close last night because of the weather and will remain closed for the rest of the weekend.

Okay, so the big question is, will she be Definatley at RIAT, if so brilliant.

NO… She wont DEFINITELY be at RIAT. However, you can rest assured that all people involved will be doing all they can to try and get her there… But she’s old, and (dare I say it) temperamental.

Nothing is definite at any airshow untill the wheels are on the ground… And even then there is no guarantee that they will play ball.

Does it matter?

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Strange reply:confused: No, of course it ‘doesn’t matter’, but people have a genuine interest in vintage aircraft and those who fly them. Is there anything wrong with asking the question?

Sorry, I just dont see the point of your response… Seems like a perfectly reasonable question to me.

That was an aerodynamic landing Peter, not a take off. Waddo has a long enough runway to preclude the use of the ‘chute. Anyway, I guess they wanted to save having to re-pack so it can be used at Farnborough.

Ref the BUFF. A RAF source says (Sat) it couldn’t be refuelled where it was as the concrete of those pans wouldn’t take the weight. It would have needed to taxy across to the far side pans and this would have further upset an already severly disjointed show schedule.

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No Les… It was an aborted take off on the Sunday that Peter is referring too. Nose up all the way! Aborted Take Off at Waddington

Even if there was a fee to get near them both it would be a good fundraiser!

I think that would be the final nail in the coffin… The public have already paid more than enough to get near her!