The He111 dispersed by explosives was:

02/10/1940
I./KG53
Heinkel He 111H-5

Port engine disabled by No.151 Sqn. Forced to ditch into the sea off Chapel St.Leonards at 18:20 hrs. Engines recovered Sept 1967. Remains of wreck blown up by RN, March 1973.

Werk No. 3554

OCTOBER 2ND. – SKEGNESS, LINCOLNSHIRE.
A German aeroplane had been brought down off Chapel St. Leonards, but the crew of five swam ashore and were made prisoners. – Rewards, £19 14s. 6d.
(RNLI Records of Service 1939-46)

but not off the pier.

The pier loss was:
13/03/1941
Stab/KG2
Dornier Do 17Z-2

Shot down by No.29 Sqn and crashed into the North Sea south east of Skegness Pier, Lincolnshire, at 21:45 hrs.

Regards
Ross

Now before you all decide from your armchairs what will not survive in the Channel take a look at Bob Peacock’s video of the Ju88 in 20m off Deal

http://youtu.be/Prmz6YAse6c

Cockpit at 2.57 in is the eyeopener as is the tail feathers.

Oh and it’s not a one off – the guy is the same one that found the Do,17 close by.

http://youtu.be/eJm9V64g2ig

Now open eyes and brains for credibility check.

Ross

Spitfire P8583 of CGS, Sgt C I Scott according to the Form 1180

Regards
Ross

The Barrington is usually too sensitive for locating ferrous aircraft parts.

All the magnetometers work on the same basis.

Heat some ferrous material over 600/700 deg c (vulcanising) and when it cools it takes up and “fixes” the magnetic flux pattern of the place it cools into it’s structure.

The Barrington and other geophysics devices are looking for the soils in the vicinity of a fire x 100 years ago and so are set up to measure and display as full scale the magnetic deviation from when the soils were heated at the the time to the rest of the immediate surrounds now (fractions of nT).

This will only help in an aircraft recovery if the parts were on fierce fire when or shortly after the crash.

Foerster etc, bomb locators work on the assumption that the previously forged ferrous parts retained their vulcanising magnetic flux arrangement and they now are lying at an angle to the surrounding magnetic flux lines giving a significant local magnetic deviation (10s of nT).

They will not be densed in measurement scale as the Barrington type.

For a crash site without subsequent fire I would go with the bomb locator. For one where the aircraft burnt on the ground or a fire dump I would choose the geophysical device but expect to have a wide spread of natural as well as man made hits.

Personally i’ve had better results (shallow depth) from this device
http://www.schonstedt.com/index.cfm?page=GA-52Cx

than the ex military Foerster (but this excels at depth)

Final caution – any magnets on site (from compass correctors or meters) will give results the same as a dump full of crated merlins while a whole aluminium airframe will be invisible to any magnetometer.

Regards
Ross

Sheet and pump or cassion – so can generalise as well – all depends on ground conditions.

Ross

Need to guide them at the desk a bit Robert – too easy for a busy bod to say computer says no!

If they flick through the paint match computer catalogue to “British Standard” (B.S.), the wording needs to be correct, they will find the mix weights listed.

Will only do aerosol though not tin any more.

Regards
Ross

Best place for reliable coastal eyewitness positions is the RNLI Records of Service.

They were written down at the time for use in rewards and published internally in 1946.

Credit :RNLI Records of service 1939-46

1944
CRAIL , FIFESHIRE.
At eleven in the morning of the 15th of January, 1944, four men were out in the 25-feet motor boat Sheila. They were fishing for crabs by towing a line of pots. They saw a Barracuda aeroplane come down on the sea, about two and a half miles south-east of Crail harbour. A light westerly wind was blowing and the sea was smooth. The men cut away their gear, and a short distance away picked up three men in the aeroplane’s dinghy. One was a sixteen-year-old air training cadet. They took them to Crail and handed them over to an ambulance from the Royal Naval Air Service at Crail. The owner of the Sheila said that “he was not looking for any reward and was only too glad to have assisted in saving the aircraft’s crew.“ – Rewards, £2 10s. and 4s. for fuel used. (BV753 – Ross)

SEPTEMBER 7TH. – BLACKPOOL, LANCASHIRE.
At 4.40 in the afternoon the St. Anne’s coastguard reported that an aeroplane had crashed in the sea about three miles west-south-west of Squires Gate. A light north-west breeze was blowing and the sea was smooth. The motor life-boat Sarah Ann Austin was launched at five o’clock, taking with her an R.A.F. doctor, another R.A.F. officer and two police officers. She found two dinghies with three men in them, the crew of a Fleet Air Arm Barracuda aeroplane. The men were wet, cold and slightly injured.The life-boat took them and the dinghies on board and landed them at Blackpool at 6.45. Rewards, £6 1s. 6d

ANSTRUTHER, FIFESHIRE.
At 2.10 in the afternoon of the 13th of October, 1944, the Anstruther coastguard saw a Barracuda aeroplane flying low on a westerly course. Without warning it nose-dived into the sea. Then a rubber dinghy was seen with a man on board. Four men in the fishing boat Shepherd Lad were nearby. They rescued the man and his dinghy and took them to St. Monans. – Rewards, a letter of appreciation to Mr. John Dunn, skipper of the Shepherd Lad. (MD757 – Ross)

EASTHAVEN, ANGUS.
At 9.15 on the night of the 21st of November, 1944, the coastguard at Easthaven reported that a Barracuda aeroplane had crashed in the sea opposite the lookout post. A light west wind was blowing, with a moderate swell. With some difficulty four men launched a rowing boat, which had been laid up for the winter. It was a dark, moonless night, but the men worked quickly and skilfully and rescued the pilot, uninjured, but suffering from shock and exposure. The Broughty Ferry life-boat was launched, but was not needed.- Rewards, £5. (See Broughty Ferry, “Accounts of Services by Life-boats,” 1944, page 45.)

1945
JANUARY 3RD. – ANSTRUTHER, FIFESHIRE.
A Barracuda aeroplane had been reported in the sea after striking the target ship, but no survivors could be found.- Rewards, £17 14s. (MD801 – Ross)

ROCKFIELD, ROSS AND CROMARTY.
At five in the afternoon of the 18th of June, 1945, a Barracuda aeroplane crashed in the sea a mile east of Rockfield. A moderate south-west wind was blowing, with a slight sea. No one saw the accident, but on seeing smoke rising from the sea four men put out in a rowing boat. They found only a rubber dinghy and a seat. A destroyer, an air-sea rescue-boat and aeroplanes also searched.- Rewards, £2. (MX844 – Ross)

1946
FINDON, ABERDEENSHIRE.
A Barracuda aircraft crashed in the sea two miles east-by north of Findon coastguard station at 3.45 in the afternoon of the 19th of June, 1946. The sea was calm and the wind light. The accident was seen by a man, who informed the police and they collected a crew of five, who put off at once in a motor boat, but just before they reached the spot a passing steam trawler had rescued the pilot. – Rewards, £3 and 3s. for fuel used.

These should keep you at the Hydroggies charts for a bit until the weather moderates.

Regards
Ross