In the Hamlyn Guide to British Aircraft of WW2, there is an excellent double page colour photo of P7048.
In that publication it also states that it’s high landing speed restricted the number of airfields it could use.
Presumably, had the type been fitted with Merlins instead, it would have been a real winner, though I expect that there was a shortage of engines at the time as they were being frantically fitted to Hurricanes and Spitfires.
I remember the Whirlwind being one of the first kits produced by Airfix, which was surprising considering it’s small production run.
Thanks for that JDK, a most interesting thread on MH434.
Not being a Poirot fan, I was unaware that the programme was made as long ago as 1988, I assumed that it was fairly recent, not sure about it being filmed at DX though, the tower was different, and there were no statics in shot.
Interesting, at the time I was scheduling up restoration work on the real Moynes Park, knowing the financial state of the owner at the time, who shall remain nameless, they would have jumped at the chance of earning some dosh from the TV company.
Time for the dried frog pill Pete…
Will it settle my stomach.
But it seems considerably down on the number attending the 60th Do 10 years ago and considering the additional number restored since, where are they, in the US I suppose, and stuff Goodwood, that’s just for car freaks, let them just have the Arrows, they’re red, fast and appealing to the Ferrari brigade are’nt they. A Spitfire meeting at Duxford without MH434 is beyond belief, and are we only going to get just one Hurricane and no Buchon.
At least Sheperd Neame are going to be there, hooray, a decent pint at DX for a change.
Woohoo, theres a treecreeper outside my window, only he’s going for next doors roof instead, never seen that before.
I aplogise if I appeared to be putting people off going to Rougham, but the weather here was pretty grim all day, it appeared to start brightening up about lunch time and I was going to issue a favourable report, however I nipped across the road to the shop and the heavens opened again, I got soaked just running back.
The lack of light a/c movements was very noticeable, it’s usually pretty busy round here on a sunday, and all the inbound Stansted flights were lost in the low clag.
I did attend a Wings, Wheels and Steam event in similar conditions and some of the landings and take offs were pretty hairy.
I’m glad that the event did turn out to be a success for all concerned, I would sooner have been there than curled up with gut ache and having to show prospective purchasers around the house.
I promise not to be so gloomy for the Spitfire Show.
Incidentally, the weather here today is even worse, heavy rain but not so windy.
Unbelievable, I’ve got over a thousand vinyl albums and CD’s and the only ones with any aviation related covers are Zeppelin 1 and 2 plus Blind Faith, I wonder if Ginger Baker’s daughter is still embarrased by ‘that’ cover, even us so called, 1960’s ‘freeloving’ generation thought it was naff and exploitative of such a young girl, I remember buying it from a record shop in Minehead when I was working at Butlins and insisted on them putting it in a bag, 37 years on, would she be prepared to do it now, the black tape may have to be somewhat more expansive.
The flying boats had definately gone from Cowes by 1967, we stayed at the youth hostel there in August 67 and 68 and took the ferry from West to East Cowes several times. This passes close to the Hovercraft works and slipways and I have some pictures taken at the time, but only of new hovercraft, I’m sure that had the hulk of a Princess been still lurking, then I would have snapped it.
Mind you, I did spot a Prince, it was Cowes Regatta and we wandered onto a small quay and bumped into HRH Prince Philip and who I presumed was Uffa Fox, trying to get their dinghy out of the water, no security men around in those days to chase us off.
When did the last vestige of Princess Flying Boat succumb to the scrap-man’s pot?
I have a vague recall of seeing what I think was the/a fuselage when making a crossing to the I.O.W. in the summer of 1963. It would have been at the crossing point used by rail passengers from London.
Ringing any bells with anybody?
Mark
You would only have seen anything if taking the ferry from Southampton to the IOW, the main route from London Waterloo would have arrived at Portsmouth Harbour station and connected from the jetty there to Ryde, you would have seen nowt of Calshot, however, if my memory serves me well, you may have been lucky enough to have sailed on one of the paddle steamers still operating at the time, unless you fancied a good walk to Clarence Pier and travelled on one of Mr Cockerills finest inventions.
Also, sigh, on reaching the other end, you would have had to travel on either the unique petrol driven tram along Ryde Pier or caught the last surviving O2 driven steam train via all stations to Ventnor.
Anyone have a time machine going cheap, the nostalgia has got to me.
By coincidence I just found this as a bookmark in my copy of ‘The Encyclopedia of Modern Warplanes’, how did we cope with the boredom of it all.
I was interested to note the ban on roller skating, I seem to remember the base kids and some of the US personel bombing about on roller blades all the time, perhaps someone went out of control and ended up in one of those dustbins full of iced Bud.
Wasn’t that the year when the F-117 got stuck in the mud when it was being towed from the static park to the hangar on the Saturday evening.
Seriously though, what are the chances of this really happening, am I allowed to hold my breath for a brief or long period. I have to say that Air Fete was one of the few airshows that were really good fun for both enthusiasts and Mr and Mrs Family, apart from the dogs, always a ridiculous situation allowing them in, I have 2 myself, but however brave my Jack Russell is, (and he has Rotties for breakfast), I wouldn’t dream of forcing the poor little sod to experience a B-1 wing back flyby.
I recall on an earlier thread by Moggy, that he was concerned, as the organisers carry on by almost Royal accesion, that the will to put the thing on would go out of the window.
C’mon chaps lets get on down and make this thing happen, book the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels for next May and start shipping in the Polish sausage, you know the public will respond.
There must be someone from the Hall tuned into this site, lets hear what they have to say, wer’e missing a great Anglo-American institution here and we need to get back to normality, stuff the terrorists, you’re letting them win, I’ll volunteer to search the cars and give suspicious looking people a good kicking.
I hope that your information has substance Moggy, as I’m cleaning my lenses in anticipation already.
I remember going on a trip on a steamer from Portsmouth to Southampton Docks, circa 1957, to view the ocean liners. The skipper however took us very close in to Calshott so we could see the flying boats and most impressive they were too, were there 2 complete examples and another partly finished on the site.
I believe there was also some hairbrained scheme to put a nuclear reactor in the flying prototype which would somehow drive the props, presumably by steam turbines, and give it unlimited range, anyone have any details of that, would have been interesting had it crashed near a populated area.
Can’t find anything on the Radio Suffolk website, however rumour has it that headlining the first show will be the B-2 Spirit flying in formation with the Vulcan.
Can’t see us all qeuing to get in the one gate next to the old viewing area, especially if the Browning armed Hummer is in place, apart from that, the handbag search will be intolerable, no liquids!!!!!, no mobile phones, ( hooray ), no cameras or electrical equipment, ( Boo ), no-one allowed in with a dark skin and a beard, however it will be worth the 10 hour wait for the Polish sausage and a Bud for breakfast, or will it be tea, or even supper.
Can’t wait to show my allegiance to the flag.
Sorry to be so cynical, but none of these terrorist scum have stopped Waddington or Leuchars, so why is Mildenhall so special, aren’t we all in the same boat, the current climate seems to suggest that we are.
Mk 12
Fantastic picture Mk 12, it really sums up that special moment, and I like the glass of vino in his hand, but it should have been a little more to the left and you would have picked up me and the old man standing about 100 yards away, incidentally the school is situated roughly in line with the left hand Spitfire, only below the horizon.
Trumper
You miserable sod, why didn’t you pay to go in, it cost peanuts and had a really great atmosphere, the only thing that spoilt it for me was that my missus and I were in the nasty throes of divorce and she insisted on going, why, I shall never know, I think it was something to do with bonding with the children, don’t worry, 14 years on and we have managed to remain good pals, despite all the nastiness at the time, word of advice to those in a similar situation, both of you swallow your pride and it works out best for everyone in the end.
I was allowed to crawl all over the Antonov, what big ******s they are, when I went into the beer tent, all the participating aircrew were supping pints, the Spitfire landed and the pilot, whoever he was that day, turned up at the bar and turned down multiple offers of drinks and stuck to Coke, his reply to the ensuing p*** taking was that alcohol and Spitfires don’t go together, quite right too.
Nice little airshow, drove past the place today and thought about it, then I saw the reference on here.
AG
I was thinking that it was only me and him that saw the significance of Zoot, I was lucky enough to be sitting on the sound desk at Notty Uni in 74 when Captain Beefhart did the most cosmic gig I ever saw, ‘Too many fans and not enough fans’, how cool was that.
I remember being in Saffron Walden when HFL were still based at Audley End, and finished their first four Spitfires more-or-less together.
One Saturday all four seemed to be being airtested – it was wonderful watching them playing around Walden being put through their paces. Not to be seen again, sadly- well, not there anyway!
Adrian
My son was at Saffron Walden County High School during the last few years of HFL’s tenancy, for those who don’t know, the school is at the bottom of the hill at the end of the runway. He used to come home sometimes with tales of constant overflights, I think it put him off going to airshows as he was subject to them every day.
I was always a little dubious about air testing newly rebuilt vintage a/c over a school containing 1000 kids.
One Saturday I took my old man shopping at Saffron Walden and drove him up the little track to the airfield. We stopped at the barrier at the top to be confronted by 2 Spitfires ticking over right next to us, almost within reach.
There was a crowd of people on the airfield, including 2 old boys, one in a wheelchair, we learnt that they were Alex Henshaw and Jeffrey Quill plus a group of people in connection with a Canadian Squadron that had flown one of the Spits.
The 2 took of together and proceeded to fly a scintillating routine, I’m sure that one of the pilots was Mark Hannah.
It was capped by a low level pass over the school below us and a steep low level climb up the valley towards us that had everyone ducking.
That would have been summer 1992, and did I have a camera with me, nooooooooo, there’s not usually much to photograph at Walden Waitrose.
The T-10 Wellington in Hendon was flown in the ‘Dambusters’ film, was this the last time that a Wellington ever flew and what happened to it after that, was it lurking somewhere in an airworthy condition for years or what. What sort of state is it in now, would it be possible to get the thing flying quite easily, possibly not, and anyway quite acceptably so, Hendon wouldn’t swap one of their flyable gems for a composite example, whatever the quality, would they………………?