Pete TrumanIt had been presented to the British Transport Museum a couple of years before which was based, then, at Clapham. It is now in a Glasgow Museum. I will ask my brother (who is a train nut, engine driver and part owner) as he will most likely know where it was shedded during this period.
The stretch of track used is mentioned in the book on the making of the film. It was near Bedford.
Have just done this and the computer crashed.
Sir, you are a thorn in my side.
Have tried to research the Jones Goods on Google but not very succesfully.
Have just dug out my Combined Volume and Observers Book of Trains from 1961.
It would appear that 103 was stashed in the back of Crewe sheds for about 25 years, away from public gaze, then restored to running order in 1959, based at Dawsholm?
The poor thing is now rotting away in the Glasgow Museum of Transport.
I remember being tipped off by a local signalman about loco movements from London to York museum in the 70’s and 103 was not involved in this, I don’t think it was ever at Clapham, I don’t intend to get frozen in my loft to find my slides of this incident.
I think I will set my keyboard to bagpipes in honour of this event.
Incidentally, what does your brother part own.
Pete TrumanThe imperial war museum in London may be able to help. They had a database that the public could play with (via a simplified screen and keyboard) the last time I went a few years ago, and you could look up every pretty well every known enemy bomb that had dropped and caused damage during the war. I think it used ARP records that someone had computerised, but I may be wrong. I used it to search down an off target V1 that partially destroyed my fathers house in the North Essex countryside, but it took some time as I don’t think you could search geographically or there was some other querk that I now forget. It even named the individuals killed or injured or made homeless in each case iirc. It looked ripe to go ‘on-line’ on the net even back then
Living in North Essex myself, I would be interested to know where this happened.
Coggeshall church was badly damaged by a V1, you can clearly see the repaired bits, another was found sitting in a hedge south of Chelmsford not that many years ago, there was also supposed to be one lying in a wood near Hunsdon airfield.
My late mother in law remembered them flying over Huddersfield having been air launched by Heinkels over the North Sea and aimed for Manchester.
Pete TrumanThis was all discussed on a separate three four months ago and think most of the questions were answered here
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46657
Sorry Ollie, don’t know what happened to the Antoinette, but I’m pretty sure it survives, possibly in a museum in France.
I just looked at the previous thread where it stated that the railway scenes were shot near OW.
Could someone explain the location of the power station with cooling towers quite clearly shown in the background, also the loco used was the Highland Railway Jones Goods, the first 4-6-0 built in the UK and following withdrawal and restoration, mainly based in Scotland, rarely venturing south.
The coaches incidentally were from the Caledonian Railway, 2 of which survive in preservation in Scotland, the others were scrapped, there was a bit of an outcry about this I recall.
I always thought that these scenes were shot somewhere on the Notts/Lincs/Yorks borders due to the straightness of the track, flat landscape and prominent power station, the filming of the a/c at Skegness could confirm this.
Pete TrumanNope, your ma and pa need to be cousins at least and preferably brother and sister.
pre-requisite for banjo playing
Sorry, they were a Notts/Lancs combination, banjo now in bin, now where is that accordion, presume I need a kilt to be able to play that, or handkerchief on head.
My late old man used to play the trombone, apparently he played the last concert at the Crystal Palace before it burnt down, but he was always carefull where he left his pipe.
Pete Trumanpedant mode :- ON…. Peter, It would definately not have been MoD Police at Langar in 1961 that picked you up,….MDP were not formed until 1971, and they have never been based at Langar anyway. Probably RAF Police or Security. Pedant mode :- OFF. Was interested to see the photo’s of Hucknall Air Display as a lad always looked forward to going to it on a Whit Monday, living only a couples of miles away it was one of the highlights of my year!! Oh…such memories. Got a short video (20 mins I think) of one of the Hucknall Air Displays, 1963 possibly, copied from someones home movies. Even shows a P-47 sat on the flight line, as well as a short flight around the area in an Auster.
Happy New Year to all,
Keith
Wow, any chance of a copy, have colour slide of the razor back P-47 at Hucknall, 1963. Did you used to sit on the slagheap and watch them chucking chickens and bricks into the jet engines on the test beds, it was good fun.
Incidentally, used to go to Hucknall Airshow on the back of my old mans tandem, dating from 1925, most memorable was 1972 featuring the Blue Angels, Whit Monday airshow was always followed by a trainspotting trip the next day, Grantham, Peterborough, Crewe, Shrewsbury, ( the best ), Chester.
Accept what you say about police at Langar, living near to Wethersfield has altered my memories.
Pete TrumanMelvyn, why doesn’t my banjo playing sound like the kid in ‘Deliverence’, is it because I’m obviously not a gentleman.
Pete TrumanOK, stuff work, I’m having a pint.
Pete TrumanHave just spent a couple of pleasant hours watching this film, have’nt seen it for years.
Question.
What happened to all the aircraft featured in the film, do they all exist or was there a cull afterwards.
Does anyone know any particular pilots that flew in the film.
Just to make you sick, many years ago I was doing some archictectural work for some structural engineers in Central London, my office looked down into the ladies changing rooms at Dickens and Jones.
One lunchtime I was walking past their rear entrance when a woman hurtled out the door, knocked me to the ground and I found myself with Sarah Miles lying on top of me, she was very apologetic, but naturally enough, I was in no hurry to move, bliss.
Pete TrumanAnyone bothering to do any work today.
Pete TrumanPictures of the original Deltic, first one at Grantham, taken by me August 1960, second one taken by my brother at Doncaster the month after.
The Deltic society have 4 survivors, 3 at Barrow Hill, Staveley and one at York where the original example lives.
I’m sure that there are other survivors including a cab sat on a trailer.
When built, they were considered to be the most powerful single unit diesels in the world at 3300 BHP.
The 30 members of the class replaced the entire fleet of A1, A2, A3 and A4 steam pacifics.
I recall hurtling down Stoke Bank behind one of these whining, smoky monsters and clocking it at 117 mph with 12 coaches.
Last sight of one in service was at Berwick on a parcels, 1978, they were replaced by HST’s.
Anyone know exactly how many are left.
Pete TrumanSorry chaps, I downloaded the Times obituary on Ray Hanna and was going to celotape it to the barrier as close as possible to MH434 today. Unfortunately having taken my mother back to Stamford today, was feeling really unwell and just wanted to get home. I have to go out that way next week and will carry out the task later.
Pete TrumanOK, so why won’t it run on my computer, broadband and all.
Pete TrumanI watched Dark Blue World yesterday, I thought it was a fantastic film but the flying credits were to Mark Hanna and Walter Eichorn, I thought that Ray Hanna also flew in that film.
Anyway, thats not the point, we shouldn’t be making comparisons on this thread, all the pilots mentioned are/were bloody good, I just think that Ray had something a little bit special compared to the others, I also think that it’s a little sad that no written tribute has been placed next to the flowers next to MH434 at Duxford, I will do it myself tomorrow.
Pete TrumanAm sure that the 61 Cottesmore display featured an appearance by Douglas Bader, visiting Johnnie Johnston who was station commander at the time.
I didn’t realise that the Lincolns were assembled at Langar, what appears to be missing from my brothers album are photos taken at Langar of Shackletons being repaired, I remember that day well because we were jumped on by MOD police and taken to the guard room, I could not believe that 2 kids and a Brownie camera would have been a cause for breaching national security, my old man gave them a right going over and refused to hand over the film. We got away with it but I can’t find the photos, perhaps MI5 came in the night and……….
Pete TrumanMy Father bought me a ‘Bailey’s Bird’ Annual from 1979 (eBay is a wonderful thang!) quite poignent with the Mallard crash last week….
My Parent’s bought my son the Duplo airport & cargo plane, and my daughter the lego city airport….which kept me quiet on Xmas day afternoon…
And my best mate bought me an electric guitar starter kit, which has nothing to do with aviation, but is sooo cool! (driving my wife mad with the same chord over and over again…)
Smoke on the Water I presume, try an open G tuning then play with a wine bottle, as close to the speaker as possible to get the benefit of all that feedback, divorce within a week.
BoB special disc is brilliant, not a lot of people know that.
Supposed to be taking mother back to Notty today but don’t fancy freezing fog and snow so staying here with the vodka bottle instead, even Stansted is quiet this morning.
Is Moggy’s Dambusters DVD the new version by David Frost.
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