No!
I haven’t read it yet. 😎
Seriously though, everyone, please don’t post any spoilers.
It ruins the book for people who haven’t finished it.
GA
Don’t worry, I wouldn’t dream of giving anything away, my missus is about a quarter of the way through, she’s a bit knackered this morning having been hooked on it till about 2:00am this morning, she doesn’t read as quickly as me so I’ve got to bite my lip for a while yet.
My only comment is this, sometimes the book is a bit too complicated and ‘clever’ for it’s own good, and you have to have a photographic memory of the previous books to remember the relevance of some of the characters, which was a problem yesterday because I kept asking Liz who the hell so and so was, resulting in black looks.
I think that some of those kids interviewed on TV yesterday will struggle to get through it. It’ll make a good film, I’d like to see Terry Gilliam direct it, just as he should’ve directed all the other films.
No!
I haven’t read it yet. 😎
Seriously though, everyone, please don’t post any spoilers.
It ruins the book for people who haven’t finished it.
GA
Don’t worry, I wouldn’t dream of giving anything away, my missus is about a quarter of the way through, she’s a bit knackered this morning having been hooked on it till about 2:00am this morning, she doesn’t read as quickly as me so I’ve got to bite my lip for a while yet.
My only comment is this, sometimes the book is a bit too complicated and ‘clever’ for it’s own good, and you have to have a photographic memory of the previous books to remember the relevance of some of the characters, which was a problem yesterday because I kept asking Liz who the hell so and so was, resulting in black looks.
I think that some of those kids interviewed on TV yesterday will struggle to get through it. It’ll make a good film, I’d like to see Terry Gilliam direct it, just as he should’ve directed all the other films.
The point, whether you’re into frightening goats or not, is being entirely missed here.
If, as DJJ suggests in his post on page one, that an order was given by the American Government/Military that no further videos were to be posted on sites like Youtube, then those soldiers who contrived to post that video are therefore guilty of breaking a direct order.
If so, aren’t they likely then to face charges of something like conduct unbecoming or conduct prejudicial?
Regards,
kev35
This is perfectly true Kev, this point has been lost on considerations of animal cruelty and general pee taking, it should all be down to general military discipline, subsequent boundaries, and of course ‘Winning hearts and minds’.
It may seem a bit of a joke to some people, but it’s all down really to the breakdown of military codes and attitudes and, in a place like this, the rot can start at something simple like this, poo poo it if you like but unfortunately, and I can’t speak from experience here, they don’t seem to represent the John Wayne type gentlemen that took Iwo Jima, or did they sit on the lava and shoot lizards, not if they wanted to survive and win they didn’t.
The point, whether you’re into frightening goats or not, is being entirely missed here.
If, as DJJ suggests in his post on page one, that an order was given by the American Government/Military that no further videos were to be posted on sites like Youtube, then those soldiers who contrived to post that video are therefore guilty of breaking a direct order.
If so, aren’t they likely then to face charges of something like conduct unbecoming or conduct prejudicial?
Regards,
kev35
This is perfectly true Kev, this point has been lost on considerations of animal cruelty and general pee taking, it should all be down to general military discipline, subsequent boundaries, and of course ‘Winning hearts and minds’.
It may seem a bit of a joke to some people, but it’s all down really to the breakdown of military codes and attitudes and, in a place like this, the rot can start at something simple like this, poo poo it if you like but unfortunately, and I can’t speak from experience here, they don’t seem to represent the John Wayne type gentlemen that took Iwo Jima, or did they sit on the lava and shoot lizards, not if they wanted to survive and win they didn’t.
In fact there is a very good piece on the RAFM website about the BoB nameplates in their possession and how they aquired them: http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/cosford/exhibitions/loco_plates/index.cfm
As you can see they own 18 nameplates (presumably all with their crests/plaques).
The most recent plate and plaque set sold at auction seems to have been ‘601 Squadron’ sold by Sheffield Railway Auctions for £35,000 on 10 March this year, but they sold a loose crest on 16 June for £8,000.
Very interesting, notice they don’t have Spitfire.
You may know this, but anticipating Churchills demise, the Winston Churchill loco was given a complete overhaul and repaint in order to be in a fit state to haul his funeral train, it was then placed in store until needed.
Eventually, in 1965 it hauled the train to Oxfordshire from Waterloo, chosen for it’s riverside access, and after the event, ran light back to London for storage and placing in a museum.
I saw it at York a couple of years ago and it still looked pretty mint after all these years, it must be the only BR loco to survive in its original paintwork.
I have a photo of Blackmore Vale at Eastleigh taken only a few weeks before the end of Southern steam, 40 years ago last week, and it looked a bit grim and devoid of nameplates, trouble is, I can’t find the pic, mustn’t go on, the mods will be after us.
Trust you to come out with an aerial pic of the entrance DB, very cool, the other shots of the current state of the base from REF are very sad, we couldn’t bear going to Norfolk for our hols this year as it would have been too quiet.
Were all 44 or rather 88, BoB class nameplates presented to the RAF then when the locos were withdrawn in the 60’s, less ‘Winston Churchill’ as it’s at York, and if so, where are they all now.
I looked up a previous thread and saw a picture of 6 of them on display at RAF Bentley Priory including what must be the other Hurricane nameplate.
I know that some of these loco’s are running in preservation, in fact, for the summer, ‘Tangmere’ is being disguised as ‘Spitfire’ in conjunction with the Shepherd Neame brewery, but I bet all these plates they carry now are replicas, they are too precious to tempt the screwdriver brigade.
Mr. Truman sir.
If it’s not too much trouble could you also send me a copy of the Southend Museum Brochure? It was probably the first Museum (let alone Air Museum) I ever went to. I remember a Me109 that I think was a replica and going inside the Beverly but very little else…Many Thanks,
John
I certainly will sir, please PM me your personal E-mail address, I hope you lot aren’t going to overwhelm me with requests.
So, the next step is to give animals the right to vote? Maybe they should have a dozen seats in Parliament? Give me a break!
Actually, I think that my Jack Russell would have more to offer than some of those Cluckheads in Parliament, at least he’d frighten the life out of some of them, he definately wouldn’t agree to give the vote to cats and rabbits though, besides, he’s very handsome and would look much better than some on the front bench.
Pentagon remains unmoved.
So, the next step is to give animals the right to vote? Maybe they should have a dozen seats in Parliament? Give me a break!
Actually, I think that my Jack Russell would have more to offer than some of those Cluckheads in Parliament, at least he’d frighten the life out of some of them, he definately wouldn’t agree to give the vote to cats and rabbits though, besides, he’s very handsome and would look much better than some on the front bench.
Pentagon remains unmoved.
RAFrochford:- I have a copy and have scanned the cover hoping to publish it on here, for some reason it keeps just going on and on without getting anywhere.
Old Fart:- you once requested a copy of an old Southend Museum Programme, I’ve found that, it’s from 1976, shall I scan it and E-mail it to you, again the thing seems to be taking an age to download on here.
I’m self employed so I get zilch when I’m on holiday. Last year our financial crisis meant we went nowhere, apart from a few days out, luckily this is a good place to live and the coast and nice countryside are within reach.
This year we have indulged ourselves with a holiday cottage in Devon, on the edge of Exmoor, Johnny Kingdom lives in the next village, it would be nice to find him in his local pub. Our problem is whether or not to take the dogs with us, the Jack Russell doesnt travel well and we respect peoples rights not to like them on beaches, though we have investigated dog friendly beaches, there are a few. So that’s us sorted for the summer, if you are unable to do much, let me reccomend a local area rail tourer ticket, they arne’t really advertised but cost naff all for a family ticket and cover large areas, look them up on the internet.
I’m self employed so I get zilch when I’m on holiday. Last year our financial crisis meant we went nowhere, apart from a few days out, luckily this is a good place to live and the coast and nice countryside are within reach.
This year we have indulged ourselves with a holiday cottage in Devon, on the edge of Exmoor, Johnny Kingdom lives in the next village, it would be nice to find him in his local pub. Our problem is whether or not to take the dogs with us, the Jack Russell doesnt travel well and we respect peoples rights not to like them on beaches, though we have investigated dog friendly beaches, there are a few. So that’s us sorted for the summer, if you are unable to do much, let me reccomend a local area rail tourer ticket, they arne’t really advertised but cost naff all for a family ticket and cover large areas, look them up on the internet.
Oh dear, by the looks of that picture, it will no doubt fly again, unfortunately the pilot won’t, very sad, condolences to all concerned.
Hi…
Would anyone have a spare copy of the 1983 Great Warbirds Air Display programme that they would be willing to sell??
I had a copy not that long back, but after several moves, I have a horrible feeling that I may have lost it. That show was special to me because it was the first airshow I went to. I would love to get a copy of the programme!
Regards;
Steve
I’m sure I found one, perhaps two on Sunday, I’ll dig it out, I can always scan it and send it to you, either via the Net or I could copy it and send it on. If I have a spare copy you can have it with pleasure, no fee required to you sir.
Pity my old man wasn’t still about, he wasn’t there on the day, but crossed it during Operation Goodwood, that could be an interesting tangent, I’ll dig out his war diaries and keep you informed. He was quite overcome during our visit in 94, we met Major Howard and Richard Todd, fantastic day.