You are thinking out of context of the particular times and circumstances. It was the same reason that shiploads of aircraft were dumped into the seas, brand new flying boats taxied out offshore and sunk into deep water and similar. The war was over, strike it off charge and get rid of it. You will find many instances of similar activity if you look.
If there were any rumour about buried Stirlings, the extinction of the type would surely derserve a serious attempt to locate them. Even large subassemblies can be useful. Didn’t the RAF Museum order an aerial survey to hopefully find some wrecks Stirling sometime ago in Egypt?
Cees
Any progress on Rudy Frasca’s 190 and the brasilian one?
Takes a long time for them to be ready.
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Cees
No, get them out now. Same goes for the Norwegian and UK hill side wrecks
We are working on the underwater wrecks here in Holland 😉
Preservation is not only for this and the next generation but for the generations after that. Or we are being too egoistic?
Cees
Yes but…as individual sheet metal and pre-drilled/dimpled items, not as riveted assemblies and sub-assemblies I trust.
It is the electrolyte between the surfaces that does the damage.
Mark
Ahh, my thoughts exactly Mark,
My pet subject, Halifax W1048 at the RAF Museum. Remember the general state of thought by the museum that it is best to preserve as is. But what about the areas where you cannot reach such as the joints, steel against aluminium etc. Good to see the Fortress being treated as she should. Now do the same thing to W1048 and any other recovered airframe. An airframe that is recovered cannot be expected to last fifty to hundreds of years or indefinately. It will crumble into a nice pile of dust before your kids go to university. 😎
There is but one way to do it. The right way.
Just my thoughts of course
Cees
At some point you have to decide whether to leave it place and slowly rot or recover/restore it.
At least something’s been done.
The “E” is a rare ac…especially one with combat history.
I totally and utterly agree. It has been lying there too long already. Now the Black Cat Pass Fortress, the upside down Marauder etc. Save them now before it is too late.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Well done!!!!!
Cees
Thanks Deryck,
very helpful
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Cees
The second best thing Hasting wings can be used for is on a Hastings of course. The best thing is…….. 😮
😎
Seriously, glad the Hasting finally receives some tlc. It got some about a decade ago but where has the time gone.
Hope it will be in as fine condition as the Hermes fuselage when finished. Handley Page built some important types, which is not generally appreciated by joe public.
Then again, in Holland we have a public television organisation called AVRO. When I was a small boy and just started to get interested in aircraft I thought they built Lancasters first…. :confused:
Brrr
Cees
About the Victor.
A friend of mine (ex-RAF and now lives in Holland) used to work on the Victors. he loved them but also cursed them because a part from one Victor never seemed to fit another without modifications. He told me they were all handbuilt. Perhaps that is why they lasted so long.
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Cees
I will clarify with PeterD.
He did write this story up for a UK magazine but it failed to make it to print.
Mark
Are you sure Mark?
Some months ago there was an article in Aeroplane Monthly about the aquiring and shipping of a Lysander and Bolingbroke from Canada to the UK durign the seventies. In the same article it was mentioned that with hindsight all the work was in vain as both airframes didn’t exist anymore. I think the Paris fire was also mentioned.
Cees
The Victor broke the sound barrier! :diablo:
Handley Page rules……….the sound waves
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Cees
Yes Rocketeer is correct
285 is Wellington. This doesn’t look like a flap as the Wellinton’s was tubular frame with linen covering. Could be from the interior of the fuselage, perhaps some floor panelling. The red colour could be dope.
Cees
This forum has a large number of good things that give pleasure
to people frequenting it. There are of course a few lesser things
about it, but that’s life. There are forums that are much worse.
My opinion, shoot me 😉
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Cees
Torn now between brown fabric and black leather. I think that it should probably be a dirty khaki brown but cracked and worn black leather looks good.
Phil
Phil,
Torn and weatherd black leather has usually some nice dark brown cracks or areas between the black. This would suit your purposes fine don’t you think?
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Cees
There were regular updates in Aeroplane Monthly on Bob Jens’ Mossie but it has gone quiet now. Any news on that one?
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Cees
Hi There,
Not to worry, I had looked into the Whirwind files at Kew a few years ago when the old WIX (Warbird Information Exchange) was planning on building a full scale static reproduction. For this I visited Kew and read everything I could find on this fantastic aircraft. Mostly about the scrapping of the airframes after the war and where wrecksites were to be found for eventual recovery. Unfortunately the project failed but the most useful item I would consider to be the Aircraft Publication covering the Whirlwind showing a lot of info on the structure (but you have that already). The only blueprint I found was the Mk II covering the cannon nose and some photo’s showing crashed aircraft. I have lost the information about these files but you seem to have a complete list. There are no drawings at Kew but perhaps the RAF Museum can be useful as they have a indexes showing any drawings they have in store. Try Peter Elliott for this, he is a great chap.
Not much but hope it helps a bit.
Cheers
Cees