There is a Noratlas flying in France, also using Hercules engines. The Halifax at Elvington is fitted with four ex-Noratlas engines built under license by SNECMA IIRC.
Although these are of a much later version than used in the Beau or Halifax.
Cheers
Cees
Silly question.. Why is the lanc in need of new spinners? and Yes Lancman a H2s blister would be nice.
wear and tear, balancing etc……………………….
Cees
OK SORRY IT WAS APRIL 1ST !! :dev2:
Colin,
Are you that desperate? :diablo:
My first reaction was that there were no BoB wrecks left as they all have been excavated in the sixties, seventies en eighties. Am I right?
Now, you owe us a full blown report of your next recovery.
Cees
Great period article Harald, I wonder if Black6 is in any of those pics?
RN288 = Black Six
Cees
Thanks for that Cees. I was vague about the Halifax’s possible role – IIRC, the Halifax had two fuselage side ‘beams’ to support the bomb-bay floor, but also two sets of doors. These could, I presume have been removed giving a full floor area for mounting bombs? As I said, though, the shape was a hangover for the torpedo requirement.
You get a Lanc, and the engines, and no problem… 😉 I think it’s actually ‘the same’ only as an early Mk.I Lanc fuselage, and thereafter there were a lot of detail differences that came in. How fundamental they’d be to, say, a Canandian built Mk.X being converted to a Manchester I don’t know.
The halifax has indeed two strong beams supporting the floor (and forming the roof of the bomb bay. The two strong beams are made of each of two further longerons, you know what they said about the strenght of a Hally 😉
The Manchester and Lancaster I/III are structurally identical as a Mk I was flown to Canada by Clyde Pangborn as a pattern aircraft for Lancaster production there. The engines, instruments and general fitting out is another matter.
Cheers
Cees
I’m good at painting! I know that you hold the wooden end of a paintbrush cos’ I tried it both ways. Holding the bristle end takes a long time to get the paint from the tin onto the wall.
Roger Smith.
Just do it like Mr Bean did, but don’t forget masking the bits you don’t want any paint on (including yourself)
Cees
I would be delighted to provide a gunsight and instruments for the Defiant in exchange for one of the two complete Halifax throttle boxes in store. Pity that they don’t do deals with private indivuals, so they told me.
They did a deal with Peter Vacher regarding a Merlin III engine, isn’t he a private idividual himself? :rolleyes:
Why is a win win situation not acceptable to the RAF Museum. Am I missing the point, or are they?
Cees
Chillingly, if the Manchester had not evolved into the Lancaster (not an unlikely ‘what-if’ given the Manchester’s failure) the RAF would not have had a heavy bomber capable of carrying these super-large bombs.
There are drawings showing provision for the Halifax to carry the Upkeep bomb as well as a tallboy with minimal adjustment. This was ignored by the Air Ministry. There are always alternatives depending on how hard you are looking for it 🙂
Apart from that, a standard Manchester fuselage is identical to the Lancasters including the bomb doors. So how about reconverting a Lanc back to Manchester specifications? 😎
Blasphemy?
Cheers
Cees
It was used as a source of parts for the rebuild of AB910, as was MkVB BL614.
Indeed, but the fuselage and wings were still substantially intact. Sections of wing were used as pattern for the repair of AB910 and were about to be binned when Steve Atkins found and saved them. So a bit different to be taken completely apart.
Cees
Pic nr 1 looks more like a shaving mirror. Not something that could be found in British turrets, which used the Mk IIIA reflector sight. The other pics show turret framing, but look more American to me than British.
Interesting bits though.
Cheers
Cees
How was Shoreham today?
Cees
Hi Karl,
Nice to see you here. How about filling in our forummembers about your
activities to locate another Halifax.
Cheers
Cees
The phrase : “kicked the bucket” was used as well but I am not sure during WWII
Cees
Think he’d take less Peter – he’s UK based and just wants rid I think….
I think Cees should do a Stirling Panel too. especially the F/E panel with all those fuel cocks it would be a challenge!
Cheers
TT
Ben,
No thanks, I got enough work to do on the Halifax to keep me busy for some years.
Cees
Nice F100 panel. Price seems reasonable too. Has your friend contacted some of the usaf museums?
Cees Hali panel number 2 underway.. damn these things get addicting don’t they?
Another one? What’s wrong with just one?
How about building a Stirling panel instead.
Cheers
Cees