Hi Cees,
I still think the wheel looks to be the DF loop drive rather than the trailing aerial wheel.
Look at the two together in this drawing, the loop drive being the upper one. (Perhaps they are still looking for the latter?)
Whaddya think?
Regards
682al
Funny that such an item is on e-bay at the moment.
Cees
Cees
The list in the current Flypast doesn’t do anybody any favours.
I noted about 20 errors without even referring to files. 🙁
Mark
Mark,
I also noticed that the list was compiled by others than yourself. Has this something to do with the previous listing?
Just curious
Cees
Because it’s a beautiful piece of wreckology .I cannot see any reason to scrap all the airframe parts and build a brand new Spitfire round the various parts that are servicable. It’s about preservation not profit.
I agree, but it’s strange to read that it is counted as a potential survior (meaning complete airframe in my book)
Cees
Hi Ben,
I have one too. It was reconstructed from an original seat frame but the mounting had been cut off, but the drawings were available and it is complete now. All I need is any info on the leather upholstering, do you have some pics and general information on that?
Cheers
Cees
We have one of the W/OP seats/chairs you know…. 😉
Ben
Care to elaborate on that nudge nudge wink wink??? :rolleyes:
I’m interested as you might have guessed by now.
Cees
Hi Cees,
I still think the wheel looks to be the DF loop drive rather than the trailing aerial wheel.
Look at the two together in this drawing, the loop drive being the upper one. (Perhaps they are still looking for the latter?)
Whaddya think?
Regards
682al
Alan,
I think you are right . I looked it up in the C Mk VIII manual I have and there the upper wheel isn’t fitted. I had a photocopy of the Mk III wireless position I found after your post and that one shows the upper wheel alright. 😮
Cheers
Cees
Phil,
Sorry for the delay. That wheel is incorrect. That is where the wind-in wheel for the trailing aerial should be fitted but it seems like YAM didn’t succeed in finding a correct one (they did however find a complete throttle box 😮 ). So I wouldn’t use that photo for reference as it is incorrect. The reel on which the steel cable is wound is made of black bakelite. There must be some pics on the web.
Cheers
Cees
The “Halifax” Airfix at Elvington may not be the “real thing” but it still has the spirit of a Halifax.
Robert,
IMHO it’s a Halifax. The majority of the fuselage is from HR792, the covered waggon (covering the wing centresection) was rescued from Linton-on-Ouse, the tailsection, fins and rudders were built from drawings by BAe Brough (a descendant from the original manufacturer), the wing is from Hastings TG536. The Hastings was built in a similar fashion to the Avro York, which used Lancaster wings and tailplane. The Hastings used Halifax centre section and outer wings, only the intermediate section is of larger span than the Halifax. The engines are Hercules but of a later type. The tailplane has recently been rebuilt but this time properly and has sections from Halifax LL505 incorporated in it. The cockpit section is made from drawings but with wooden frames and some creativity. The props are wrong. and the landing gear is made from a steel frame with glassfibre covering which was moulded from the only original undercarriage casting supplied by the RAF Museum. The nose perspex looks a bit odd which does give the Halifax a bit of a botched up appearance but there are plans to correct this as well.
But in total I would say that about 70% of her airframe structure is genuine with the remainder easily corrected given time and the locating of proper propellers etc. I have been inside her and the structure sure is authentic.
Sure this will generate a lot of flak and so have the various Spitfire threads but they are still called Spitfires. This IS a Halifax and should be given the derserved credit to YAM as such.
Cheers
Cees
When FM213 was being restored the RAF still used Shackletons for which a mould was available to make a new batch. I have seen a photo somewhere showing the tyre storage of the BBMF and there were a lot of brand new tyres there. I think that FM213 got their tyres from the BBMF as well. So the tyres are Shackleton but are interchangeable witht Lincoln, Lancaster and Halifax.
Cheers
Cees
If it looks like a dak, Quaks like a dak and flies like a dak then there is only one answer……………..it’s a Dak
Cees
And back on the ground in 2 yaers and one day unless things change
We have a saying here in Holland:
A donkey never hurts himself on the same stone.
Hope they have a similar saying in Germany. Although Hals und Beinbruch (break a leg) doesn’t count.
Cheers
Cees
I would say the they are similar as PA474 uses Lincoln type undercarriage (something to do with the brakes, more reliable?) and Shackleton tyres. Doesn’t FM213 fly with a similar set of “shoes.
Cees
Full marks to the rebuilding team for working at at a fast pace. At this rate she will be in the air within two years or so.
Cheers
Cees
I think it was at 600 feet. Although the condition is bit battered look what has been done to here now. So any substantial wreck could be used for restoration.
Cheers
Cees
57 rescue I think got them from a museum in the uk?
Peter,
Ian Foster saved one mainwheel and tyre that had been on display in an UK museum and which came from the crash of a civilian Halifax (from memory) but this aircraft was a much later version and the wheel and tyre (which was of the threaded variety which wartime Hally’s did not) are not comparable to a wartime Halifax but the axle or parts could be used. As far as I know they located a pair of Lancaster wheels and tyres (same as YAM did) as these are exactly the same.
No Substantial Stirling here in Holland so far (apart from the fuselage section found some years ago and now on display at Deelen) but we have found a very substantial Halifax wreck in the IJsselmeer so a Stirling must be around there somewhere as well.
Cheers
Cees