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May 9, 2005 at 2:25 pm in reply to: Scrapyard Photos; Any More? #1409336

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Cees,

I fear – not.

Taken by me at International Alloys, Aylesbury, late 1950’s. 🙂

Mark

Mark,

Could you tell I was desperately looking for scrapyard piccies?

😀 😀 😀

Cheers

Cees

May 7, 2005 at 2:46 pm in reply to: Scrapyard Photos; Any More? #1412877

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How about this one?

Taken by Mark12 in 1957 at Lindholme. Any further information on these Lincolns.

Cheers

Cees

May 6, 2005 at 6:40 pm in reply to: Most overrated bombers? #1413707

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Hi Jules,

Well that’s the problem with these threads.

Most people have no first hand experience as you have had, and have gained their knowledge from books, or wartime propaganda. As comparing various aircraft types with each other doesn’t help either as each pilot would make sure a types strong points would be used to the fullest, and avoiding the lesser ones.

There will never a situation where everyone agrees on these topics. Ask former veterans (I have done with many) what the best bomber (in this case) is and you will get many different answers. Why was the Lancaster made legendary? Well, mostly through propaganda. The Liberator was less graceful as the B-17 and suffered accordingly etc etc.

Politics, propaganda, different taste etc.

Jules, just to let you know, I thank you for your efforts when doing your duty all those years ago and even if the B-17 was not the best, it got you through hell alive.

Cheers

Cees

May 6, 2005 at 4:34 pm in reply to: For the Halifax fans #1414040

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Phil,

Not only does the brake fluid make you confuse serial numbers but when you start seeing wet men in rubber suits then I really begin to worry :p

Cheers

Cees

May 6, 2005 at 4:27 pm in reply to: How Has This Forum Affected You? #1414044

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Mmm, yes it has affected me

Having been one of the “hardcore” (first WWW, then Vintage Aviator and now) WIX-participants, I noticed that I have drifted more towards this forum and are more a lurker on WIX these days. There are several reasons such as some of the other participants I enjoyed exchanging recovery/investigation information with left or otherwise due to personal circumstances and the mostly US-topics with which I have very little in common (not the fault of WIX mind you, Scott is doing a great job).

I like this board because of the mostly British feel of this forum (not only the participants but also the topics) and as I am very much interested in the RAF and British warbirds in general this is where I spent increasingly more time than on WIX. Apart from that some Could be a phase but let’s see. I would like to take part in one of the forum meets but living in Holland makes this a bit difficult however it is not impossible thankfully, but it’s a barrier.

This board is very much a spin off from FlypPast (perhaps even more so) with photographs of recoveries, derelict warbirds and things in general. This board however doesn’t detract from me buying FP every month as I still look out for the latest issue. Long may it continue.

Cheers

Cees

May 5, 2005 at 4:05 pm in reply to: For the Halifax fans #1415661

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Hi
Not really p—ed of as the FM kit must rate as one of the worst kits ever released. If you get one open the box and bin the contents the box art is the only thing worth looking at. From the parts that I have seen they are all works of fiction bearing NO relation to reality or are so badly produced as to be scrap. take alook over on hyperscale and ARC for comments from people who have one. For example the canopy; Totally wrong in shape, moulding rubbish, rear section has two bracing bars that run INTERNALY depicted as frame bars on the outside so no fix for that. Decals wrong colour, tyres look as if they are both flat, Turret interior completly made up. This kit is a complete waste of time. Do not waste your money on it. Don’t think that it is even worth doing detail or update sets for it now. Shame one big missed opportunity.

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Phil

Phil,

Don’t you think you are a bit harsh on it?

From what I have seen of the various reviews this is a pretty decent kit, and I can’t wait to get my hands on one soon.

There is no perfect kit and some people (including yourself 😉 take the hobby (if I may call it like that) too serious. There are some areas even in your fantastic model that are looking nothing like the real thing.

I agree on some points about the interior details but overall it looks quite good. I was surprised to read your comments and slagging off this kit only by looking at a review. If there are some issues with it then why not take action to correct these (such as the glazing over the FE-compartment) as you are building a 1/48 version as well. I am a kit builder as opposed to kit assemblers who seem to whine the loudest when a kit is reviewed. If there are any interior defects I will rectify them myself (or use your correction sets hint hint).

Oh, and Phil please note that the Halifax under restoration at Trenton is NA337 and not NA377. Just a minor detail 😎

Cheers

Cees

April 30, 2005 at 6:25 pm in reply to: Doesn't it make you sad.. #1425436

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Wow, is the aircraft that the parts your museum has from No. 487 (NZ) Squadron then? Or were their other Ventura squadrons on the raid too? (I have just bought “Ventura Couragious” about Trent, it’s in the post).

I read in Alan Mitchell’s excellent 1944 book “New Zealanders in the Air War” about the first raid that 487 (NZ) Sqn went on. They travelled at low level all the way after taking off, no higher than 50 feet at any time. After crossing into the continent they flew right over a Luftwaffe station and their CO’s aircraft was shot down there by ground fire, killing all aboard from memory in a fireball. It was said they were so low, when one pilot spotted a German soldier on a bicycle on the road they were following, he lowered the undercarriage and knocked him off with it. (obviously an exaggeration that must have evolved in the mess ‘line shooting’ but very funny). Sad to think their CO was killed on the squadron’s first raid but they went on to become a fine unit.

Dave,

Yes, it’s one of 487 sqdn, it crashed at Oostzaan, north of Amsterdam.

Cheers

Cees

April 30, 2005 at 11:29 am in reply to: Doesn't it make you sad.. #1425935

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Dave,

Yes, couldn’t agree more. But as the South African’s have several surplus Ventura’s in store how about a swap?

Another strange thing is that the RAF Museum has a Ventura (from SA as well) but it is still in store. Such a famous aircraft (remember the infamous raid on May 3rd 1943 on an Amsterdam power factory only one mile from where I used to live). We have in fact the remains of one of these on display in our museum including a large section of wingmainspar. W/Cr Trent won a VC during this raid. They didn’t use only Lancasters you know :diablo:

Cheers

Cees

April 30, 2005 at 11:25 am in reply to: Here's a nice little collection of extinct planes #1425938

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This photo just appeals to me, not sure why. Such a bygone era. Sad to think there are no Baffins, IIIF’s and (I think) Grebes anymore.

I never realised just how gull-winged he beautiful old Baffin was till I saw this shot.

Isn’t there a IIIF in Portugal?

Cees

April 30, 2005 at 11:24 am in reply to: Most overrated bombers? #1425940

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Well at least you have something interesting in your garden. Will it be removed someday or not? If they can dig out those 1900 pounders out of that Stirling wreck, they for sure can remove your 2 uninvited guests (the 500 pounders) for 62 years. BW Roger

Roger,

Just to point out. When I got the information for CRASH about this aircraft during my stay at the PRO at Kew (OK now National Archives) some years ago, there was no confirmation that the bombload included the underwing 500-pounders. It is assumed that they might be present but better safe than sorry eh.

Cheers

Cees

April 30, 2005 at 11:20 am in reply to: Most overrated bombers? #1425943

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Talking about handsome machines…..

How about this one then?

April 30, 2005 at 11:19 am in reply to: Most overrated bombers? #1425950

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Hi Cees,
Will I bite……… 😀

Surely has to be the Hali…..nope… I will be a good boy 😉

I think that I will also plump for the B-17, as I believe that, in the American Inventory at least, the B-24 was the better aircraft all round.

In fact, could the B-24 run the Lancaster close, as the BEST bomber of the ETO? Personally, close but to my (rose tinted eyes) the Lancaster was the PREMIER bomber!

Also, I do seem to remember reading somewhere, that later Mks of the Mosquito, could carry a similar load to the B-17, over a similar distance, but not sure where I read this!

Tony

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Oh bugger it, nope the most overated Bomber has to the Halifax, so unsuited to the bomber role, it was (where’s my tin hat) relegated (in fact, I think I better sit in an armoured vehicle) to glider towing. Oh the indignity :diablo:

You know I’m only joking……….

I know….. 😀 😀

April 30, 2005 at 11:17 am in reply to: 2 weeks at Europes largest heritage aircraft centre: Duxford #1425952

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I thought Shuttleworths Sea-Hurricane also flies with a Merlin III. Shortly after it made it’s first flight it was always reported that its engine was the oldest in the world.

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Cees

April 29, 2005 at 2:45 pm in reply to: Day at East Kirkby With Photos This time #1427370

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thats a shame would have travelled a fair distance to see/experience that,the closest i came to this was walking through a mock up section of a halifax at the IWM with “sounds”, is it still there, cos im talking a fair few years ago now

Yes it still is located at Lambeth, although the sounds were missing last time I visited this january.

Cees

April 29, 2005 at 2:44 pm in reply to: Shared technology #1427375

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I’m going on memory too so I can’t be certain either.

They were reputed to have all been made just down the road from me in Chesterfield but the chap that told me is dead now so I can’t even confirm that. 🙂

Mmm yes, I can see your problem :rolleyes:

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