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August 6, 2006 at 1:09 pm in reply to: scare tactics…. #1264074

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not forgetting of course the leaflet dropping raids made by Bomber Command over German citys in the early part of the war.. has enyone eny idea what these leaflets was, what sort of things was wrote on them.
i suppose you could call the frequent Soviet flights near NATO airspace during the cold war a type of scare tactic. this in turn gave NATO airforces a need for QRAs… 🙂

Perhaps there were some bad German jokes in them. We found a large amount of leaflets in a crashed Lancaster. They were in excellent condition and as good as the day they were printed. One of them spoke about the u-boat war and Churchill was quoted that their days were numbered. Also the amount of bombs being rained on Germany and that kind of stuff. propaganda now is the same as then.
Wonder if there are people who believe what they are being told.
Cees

August 4, 2006 at 9:49 pm in reply to: The (even more) merged Vulcan thread once again. #1265509

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With hindsight it sounds like wasted money. If it had worked out nobody would have ranted over this. Downside is that this can have it’s effect on similar aviation projects.

The money involved would have been a great financial injection in reconstruction a Whitley or Stirling or boosting one of the Hampden rebuilds.

Let’s hope lessons are learned and put to good use.

A complete Wellington anyone?

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 9:37 pm in reply to: scare tactics…. #1265511

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We once found remains of whisky bottles among the wreck of a Hampden. The surviving airgunner later told us that they used to bring empty bottles with them to throw out over the target. The open bottles would make a shreaking sound which gave them the idea they were scaring the civilians below. Mmmm.

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 9:34 pm in reply to: scare tactics…. #1265513

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During the Politional Actions in Indonesia by the Dutch Air Force in the late forties, the Spitfires flew over the area in the jungle where terrorists were thought to be there and throttling the engines back it sounded like gunfire scaring those below. Or so it was thought, don’t know if it helped. MH434 (and some other surviving ex-Dutch Spitfires) were involved in this.

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 9:30 pm in reply to: Norwegian diving opportunity #1265515

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Looks like a Halifax instrument panel? Flt engineer??

Peter,

Yes looks very much like a Halifax panel but is in fact from a Fw200

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 8:50 pm in reply to: Norwegian diving opportunity #1265650

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“It appears that debris and wreckage from this aircraft, and probably also from W1044 ZA-D which crashed nearby, was scattered over a wide area and also carried further afield by the currents in the fjords.”

I seriously doubt you would find very much. In addition, I don’t believe that the relatives of these aircraft would be very eager for any wreckage to be disturbed since there were a number of bodies never recovered from these two Halifaxes.

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Linzee

PS: Cees, that photograph in your first post should be credited to the Flyvrak website should it not?

Hi Linzee,

Yes, I forgot about that when quoting the other pics but has been corrected now. Nice to see you on this forum again. The 57Rescue forum is a bit quiet at the moment.

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 8:47 pm in reply to: Wellington wings at East Kirkby #1265654

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Alledgedly near Lindholme, on Thorne Moor. Spooky! 😮

Chris

Yes, and when the bog was drained in the seventies the wreck was found and the ghost of one of the pilot’s dissapeared. Indeed a nice story but it would have been a textbook landing if the aircraft had come down in a peat bog with all fabric intact :rolleyes:
Folklore
Cees

August 4, 2006 at 3:06 pm in reply to: Norwegian diving opportunity #1266071

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Some more

From the excellent Flyvrak site:
Showing sections from Heinkel III, Focke Wulf Kondor wings, Beaufighter rear fuselage and a Hampden undercarriage leg (would look nice under the East Kirkby Hampden).

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 2:47 pm in reply to: Wellington wings at East Kirkby #1266132

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Mind you, at least it’s in piece now. Be nice to have it reunited with the rest of it though.

Chris

It is but should be brough inside at least. Imagine the various bits and pieces brought together with the assistance of Brooklands. Oh if only.

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 2:31 pm in reply to: Wellington wings at East Kirkby #1266150

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As the tailsection is looking now in the garden at Moreton-in-the-marsh

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 2:14 pm in reply to: Wellington wings at East Kirkby #1266153

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Chris,

Thanks very much. I certainly enjoyed these photo’s. Pity that the sections were scattered arount the UK after personal differences within the organisation. It happens all too often unfortunately. What a beautiful wereck, some restored aircraft on display have started with much less.

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 1:37 pm in reply to: Wellington wings at East Kirkby #1266289

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There is so much useful material still around in the UK

682Al must recognize the hooplike item :rolleyes:

Letting it corrode away isn’t the answer. Erect a memorial or plaque and preserve the aircraft remains or use them in a restoration project.

Cheers

Cees

August 4, 2006 at 8:18 am in reply to: WW2 RAF Cockpit Green Specs.. Fluffy? #1266680

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We’ve found the same thing on fuselage parts for the Whitley – several different shades of interior green. We’ll probably go for the prettiest 😉

Somewhere I have the DTD reference for the Whitley. I’ll see if I can dig it out – would be interested to find a modern equivalent.

Same here,

Last year I was standing on top of a six foot pile of Wellington Mk III wreckage selecting interesting items for identification and display in our museum, when a friend of mine (who is also a member of the IPMS SIG RAF/USAAF) vistited. When I showed him a piece of wreckage with dark green interior (looking like the American shade) paint he insisted that that was not the correct colour for the Wellington, even when I pulled out several other bits with interior green paint varying from very light green to almost very dark green he kept insisting that I was pulling his leg :p

So if you paint it any shade of green you are historically correct, as long as it is green 😉

Cees

August 3, 2006 at 3:21 pm in reply to: Wellington wings at East Kirkby #1267429

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East Kirby have indeed given the wellington wings a good home. Great museum, great exhibits. Last went there a few years ago for the lancaster taxi experience.

Something on top of my list as well. Apart from being a living museum the Hampden is also getting along well.

Cees

August 3, 2006 at 3:01 pm in reply to: Wellington wings at East Kirkby #1267564

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Just wanted to add that this thread was NOT intended to spawn critisism at the museum at East Kirkby as I have never been there yet, but wish to do so soon.
Also they provided cover for the wingsections after the previous owners (who had some great intentions) failed to do so.
This was the most complete Wellington wreck in the UK.

This topic is aimed in the general direction of the UK-preservation scene who fail to see the potential for a much needed Wellington airframe. Perhaps the Canadians would want the various sections. Trenton would be a good home for a survivor.

Oops, I spot some teddies, incoming!!!!!!!…………….

:diablo:

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