Gents,
How things change in a couple of years!!, since Fouga’s first post I am proud to say that I have been invited to become part of the ‘Lakes Lightning’s’ team in 2008, there have been several moves and aquisitions and the current tally is as follows…
Lightning Fmk.1 XM172 (full airframe)
Lightning Tmk.5 XS420 (full airframe, resident at F.A.S.T Farnborough)
Lightning Fmk.6 XS897 (full airframe, now in the care of 29Sqd to be used as ‘Squadron Guard’)
Lightning nose sections, XM144 and XS922
Also in the collection is a Hunter (full airframe) and a two seat Harrier nose section (ergonomics training aid).
Some pics…..
XM172..
XM144..
XS897 prior to her move to CBY..
Harrier T.4 trainer..
XS420..
And lastly Niel, Heather and Me (the big lump on the right!!) in front of XS922 at the most excellent Cockpitfest 2009..
Should anyone have any enquiries, please do not hesitate in contacting me by PM or Niel (XM172 on this forum).
Kindest regards,
John.
It was good to see that the majority of the interior footage on the Vulcan (apart from archive film) was filmed inside XM594 at Newark Air Museum.
Regards,
John.
A nice picture totally original (not) of a B-17 comming down
Item 290331676360
(a good example of a photoshopped photograph and someone trying to pass it off as a wartime original, check the nose art, its Sally B)
Clearly a fake but it makes me wonder, the seller has some rather macarbe images for sale and it pains me to think that there might be a market for this sort of photography.
Who on earth would want this sort of thing?:mad:
Regards,
John.
Thanks for the update mjr, it must have been the sun on the day fuzzing my head up!!!.
Regards,
John.
Dog House,
I had a nice long chat with their rep at Waddington and it is exactly as Chox says, they are indeed running systems up one by one to check them out but the next step requires a moderatly large cash injection.
He did mention that should the cash be readily available then first flight could be feasable within 6-8 months, this of course is dependant on how much cash and if there are no big snags to deal with, something which Lightnings are famed for!!!!.
Personally, I feel that she stands a very good chance of flight, the progress so far has been excellent and the standard/quality of work is inspiring, if you make it to the QRA Open Day at Bruntingthorpe this weekend (26th) then you will be able to have a chat with the AALO guys there.
Updated webby here…… http://www.lightning422supporters.co.uk/
Regards,
John.
wv-903
yes maybe i came across a bit harsh there are some nice tidy examples in the hanger but im using the lightning here again it’s rough looking!
Harsh is not the word I would have used!!, yes the Lightning is ‘rough’ looking as you put it but the simple fact is that she was painted with a preserving varnish a few years back and looked fine, unfortunatly the co-effecient of expantion of the paint versus the airframe was different, end result was as the airframe expanded in the hot sun the paint cracked and flaked into the condition it is in today, the re-paint will do wonders for her.
I know the staff are volunteers and work hard with what they have i can respect that i did speak to one guy about the vulcan he was a great help, but all im trying to say is “TIDY THEM UP”
It’s that easy!, did you really take a good look around? I can think of several airframes that are currently undergoing extensive restoration, if only you had asked then you could have had a sneaky peak in the restoration hanger at the Meteor that is being totaly restored from the ground up, one cannot comprehend the amount of work that is being undertaken on that airframe alone.
A lot of folk who come to a museum will have no idea if it has the correct markings or paint scheme and will not care less but will prefer to look at a tidy example not one that looks like it’s spent 6 months under water.Lol.
Have you seen an airframe that has been submersed for six months? I think not, and why the comment about correct markings?, you have just viseted a museum that carries so many firsts and unique aircraft and yet all you seem to care about is the condition of the paintwork, the Viggen, the SHAR, the Monospar, the black Canberra, the Swift ooh the list goes on, I’m sure you saw the TSR.2 parts as well??
Newark i look forward to coming back and taking another look when time permits and your hard work has been done pp.
The work is NEVER done, each airframe requires constant attention, even after it has been painted it still needs cleaning on a regular basis and touching up when there is any corrosion evident, tyres need inflating, UV damage needs preventing, any oil leaks need cleaning up, and that just the ones indoors, try looking after a freshly painted airframe when it is stored outside in this wonderfull British climate.
Maybe you should try one of the enthusiast tours?, a complete behind the scenes guided tour into the working life of the museum, complete with access to a number of cockpits and aircraft to boot, it really is an eye opening experiance and a very full day!.
I am still confused as to your grievance with the admission price, how much did your trip to Legends cost?.
Kindest regards,
John.
The seller is a very well known author and leading historian of all things Lightning, lets not get into a bunfight about who knows more than who if he A) hasn’t replied to the origional question or B) is not resident of this forum and able to defend himself.
Regards,
John.
Do you mean the ones that resided at Grainthorpe?
Starfighter was sold to a new owner and moved to Bruntingthorpe.
Draken has been moved to new owner in Manchester.
XS416 has moved with the Blissets to their new residence along with a newly aquired Tornado GR.1.
HTH,
John.
*Forgot to mention, XS457 (I think!) T.5 nose section has been moved to Binbrook along with a Saudi fuselage and some other bits*
Which museum will she be located at?, would be nice to see her up close.
Regards,
John.
One question that I’d like to ask is why didn’t it taxi? Last year when it went u/s on the Sunday it did a fast taxi to allow people to see it. It would have been nice just to hear the noise at least
If she did a taxi run then they would not have been able to park her in the static line up, there would have also been insurance issues.
Last year she went ‘tech’ when lining up for take off, she had to clear the runway so a fast taxi was performed and then she turned off to the ASP.
Regards,
John.
Matt,
If you are refering to the guy on the crew ladder (blue shirt, peaked cap), that is Dave Blisset the owner of XR770.
I was fortunate enough to ‘win’ the auction for the painted spine panel, Andy Williams was on hand to present me with my prize…….

Thanks to all those involved with 770, she looks great.
Regards,
John.
Jack,
It listed on their webby here…..
http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/information.cfm
I say its a bloody good looking event and could not think of a better cause for them to raise funds/awareness for, unfortunatly I will not be able to make it do to work but I am going with my dad tomorrow night for the bike night.
Can’t wait for tomorrow!!!
John.
Explosion at 0445?????, John Smiths pattented night nurse meant that I didn’t hear a peep until 0630!!!!.
Regards,
John.
I have my NAM aircraft guide badge emblazoned with my forum name, and exceeding 6′ I shouldn’t be too hard to miss!!:D.
I am part of ‘lakes Lightnings’ this year and will have my own little display project going so if you find us give me a shout, will be nice to meet you all.
Regards,
JB.
Hi all,
Getting really excited now!!!, getting my stuff sorted ready for the weekend.
I will be there both days with ‘Lakes Lightnings’ and my little display, will be on the lookout for anything of a Lightning persuation.
Regards,
John.