[QUOTE=Peter Mills;1886075]Don’t know if this helps, but!

Only AI23B had a scope, the earlier AI23 used a HUD.

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Peter,

I thought all marks of Lightning werre fitted with a radar scope?, early marks had the PAS fittment where as that latter had the LFS, none to my mind ever had an HUD fitted?

crl848,

It will be most likely that the radar system was removed or disabled prior to the testing the Mr Aird as aerodynamic test round would not require any ‘lock’ to function, De-Haviland would have used aircraft with a full radfar fitment to fully test live firing on drone targets.

Lets not forget that the DB aircraft were hacks used for lots of development in their specific field and many changes were made to there instruments and fits to suit their designated test programme.

The DB cockpit on p.31 is undergoing such mods and has its radar scope removed at the time of the picture being taken.

Regards,

John.

Tornado gun door????????
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Tornado-Aircraft-Engine-Door-Cover-Panel-Marked-Aft-Left-Hand-W3A-/130685416510?pt=UK_CPV_Aviation_SM&hash=item1e6d75343e

Not sure why you have quesrtioned this being a gun bay door, has the listing changed since you posted it here?, it is clearly marked as engine bay door aft L/H on the condition report.

John.

Amazing pictures, but such a sad ending for the pilot, I wonder though how often occurances may have happened like this.

Pagen,

It was a long list of events that took part in that accident, it grounded the fleet until mods were put in place to prevent it from happening again.

All began with the starter not dissengaging from one of the engines leading to an engine failure on take off, the aircraft flew on one engine until that failed too after ingesting parts from the other engine.

There was a very simple failure in the canopy locking mechanism that prevented the full sequence until the canopy was jarred loose by the impact with the tree.

Very sad indeed.

JB.

John Ward who now taxies the aircraft for the LPG was his number two that day, was interesting to listen to the full story first hand, such a tragic list of events that lead up to fatal outcome.

John.

The secure compound that is advertised on the board is the old ASP that was used by Winchester marine, part of it has now been demolished for recycling.

Lets hope that should it be sold, the new owner will accomodate the Lightning otherwise there will have to be moves made.

John.

I sometimes think this seller only puts these comedic values on his items to gain publicity, surely the aim of the game is to sell things??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140705695331?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

On that basis I wonder what my brand new one in the box is worth?

John.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Red-Arrows-Gnat-Altimeter-/150767933000?pt=UK_Collectables_Aeronautica_MJ&hash=item231a781648#ht_500wt_1413

Is there anyway of confirming this as an Arrows airframe, just by looking at the serial no’s? Please excuse my ignorance, always willing to learn!

Unless there is paperwork that comes with the instrument then it is nigh on impossible to trace its history, typically when an instrument is removed it has an Equipment Condition Label (laterly a MOD form 731) attatched to it which has the serial number of the airframe it was removed from.

The value of this instrument is not effected simply becouse the seller was ‘assured’ it cam from a Red Arrows Gnat.

Regards,

John.

Restorers dream???, nightmare more like lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Supermarine-Swift-F-Mk-4-wk275-Aircraft-Historic-Piece-Restorers-Dream-/300608677166?_trksid=p4012.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D8%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3568843160733232649

John.