It was very rare that our squadron ever did any air-to-air live practice in the NF versions of either Mozzies or Meteors.
I have had a trawl back through my logbooks and would say that in Egypt we had a firing exercise approx every two months, in addition to the annual three weeks in Cyprus on the APC, which was devoted solely to air to air firing.
In the UK air to air firing averaged out at every three months, plus again annual visits to the APC at Acklington. The APC jaunts were great holidays for us navs and in Cyprus much time would be spent in bars and night clubs.
In addition to these exercises I note entries occasionally for “air into air”, where generally all four guns were loaded and would be fired off at high altitude, no doubt to test the guns and possibly get rid of outdated ammo. One of these was the only occasion that I actually fired the guns of a Mossie. We sat cosily together so I just had to reach over and press the tit when instructed.
Another tale concerns a sortie at Acklington when they gave us a glider to shoot at. These had a Y shaped divided tow line, which hitched to hooks at about a third span of the glider. As normal, four aircraft were firing in turn and the very first man hit one arm of the Y tow. As a result the glider flew one wing well down and nose pointing about 30 degrees from its line of flight. My pilot, Joe, tried his damndest to hit the thing, lining his sight up on the tug and then letting it run back down the towline, but still couldn’t hit it. He was extremely cross, and let fly with a bit of Polish, but even that did not work. That was the only occasion when he did not get a score in all the time I flew with him
Air to ground at night in a Mossie NF. I don’t think UK squadrons did air to ground at any time, certainly when I was on 152 in the middle ’50s we only did air to air. The squadrons in Germany may have done air to ground, but in MEAF we certainly did more air to ground than we did air to air. I think the reason being that we may have been required to enliven the Egyptian army had they tried anything serious in their various excursions towards us. The reason for the night air to ground as I understand it, was that we would be able to disturb their sleep. How we would have jumped at the chance, anything to enliven the dreary sandy environment, shortage of beer, and poor diet.
Have just finished Empire of the Clouds. A very sobering read for those of my generation.
Chino has a trailer mounted V1 engine that sounds rather nice 🙂
Sounds like an old motorbike on steroids.
Mind you, if you heard the real thing, you would not be saying “nice”
As a belated birthday present, I am being taken to Duxford for the day next Tuesday. Any chance some of the exotica will still be on site?
While I would love to go to Legends, my leg ends cannot stand the strain of such events now.
and I was always amazed at the trust they had in us pilots,
I have to say that because I was aged between 19 and 24 I had supreme faith in the fact that “It couldn’t happen to me, it was always some other silly so and so”. I had enough cause, I flew with 44 different pilots on NF Mossies and Meteors.
I will admit to being a tad worried at times, but then things happened so quickly that any danger had passed before it sunk in to my dim brain. Air to ground at night in the Mossie was a very interesting experience :D:D
Welcome to the forum Teekay.
Very interesting to hear from someone who has really been there, done that, got the teeshirt. As a navrad I could only sit there, alternately moaning and criticising
Didn’t like the look of that smoke/steam coming from the jetpipe area of the port engine.
And isn’t 1943 a wee bit early for the T7?
Where is Resmorah when you need him. The Met Office seaweed is only good for about 36 hours, then it rots and drops off.
Very unfortunate.
There is of course the hackneyed old saw “Any landing is a good landing if you can walk away from it”
This is a really first class selection.
A Mosquito night fighter, complete with AI MkX
That is a super collection. Nice to see the drift sight, sextant and astrograph, to remind us old navs of the “good old days” :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Super pics as usual. The Fury was the ultimate biplane fighter, very good looking.
Meaty whore