Can’t be the Met to blame for the trouble kicking off in Birmingham. This is just criminal hooliganism. Band-wagon jumping of the worst kind.
As far as a new direction for the UK? We’ve seen this before in the 1980s and more recently as well. Rioting is nothing new and will not result in revolution. The only difference this time is that it is better organized because of the technology and media available. The police need to stop this and stop it now.
Strange isn’t it, not a lot of brains in torching your own patch.
Apparently many of these criminals are from outside the areas where the riots are.
I felt a wry smile when I heard the protests are to get ‘justice’ for a gun-carrying youngster (and his family)
‘Justice’ was in this case delivered swiftly and effectively.
Moggy
There is some doubt about the circumstances surrounding the shooting with respect to who actually did the shooting. There were suggestions that that the man who was killed hadn’t done any shooting at all. We’ll see…..
Strange isn’t it, not a lot of brains in torching your own patch.
Apparently many of these criminals are from outside the areas where the riots are.
I felt a wry smile when I heard the protests are to get ‘justice’ for a gun-carrying youngster (and his family)
‘Justice’ was in this case delivered swiftly and effectively.
Moggy
There is some doubt about the circumstances surrounding the shooting with respect to who actually did the shooting. There were suggestions that that the man who was killed hadn’t done any shooting at all. We’ll see…..
They’re not listed so who knows what might happen. None of the plans seem to involve preserving any of the buildings at Woodford. The assembly hall must be useful for something – it is 1/4 mile long and in good condition. Some of the flight sheds buildings were not in a great state even when I was there so I shudder to think what they’re like now.
OK, I’ll explain.
You’re correct, I have no evidence that they didn’t.
But I would assert that they probably didn’t.
This is based on the fact that male physical contact wasn’t considered the ‘done thing’ back in 1944. In fact I’d go as far as to say that men of that generation had an abhorance of physical contact with other men. This I believe was the product of the phobia about homosexuality, which at time was not only against the law, but the evils of which were promoted by the church and media. There was also a huge terror about it within the armed forces, mainly because so many young men were forced into close proximity with others for the first time (many with little or no sexual experience–hetrosexual or otherwise).I think you’ll find men making physical contact with one another–even at the successful conclusion of a sporting event, or in this case the shooting down of the ‘beastly hun’ would be acceptable, as a post permissive society action. If you don’t believe me, watch old films of sporting events–or even old Hollywood films–you don’t get a lot of hugging in ‘Twelve O’Clock High’ or ‘Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo’. This is because it hadn’t yet entered society as an everyday acceptable part of male social interaction.
As to anger, read why in my post above yours.
Andy
I’m not sure your examples are good ones – there weren’t many (or indeed any) black folks in any of the films you mention and there may be distinct cultural differences here.
Anger? It’s a movie.
Linrey, it’s a discussion forum isn’t it?
The fact that we are to be informed that men of the 332nd fighter group had a group hug (as per modern sportsmen) makes me angry to quite an extent.
Do you know for certain that the men of the 332nd Fighter Group did not have a “group hug”? Unless you were actually there, which I doubt, I don’t see how you can be certain something like this didn’t happen. Even if you were certain it didn’t happen I can’t see the point in getting angry about it.
That’s all very well but it is in a poor state and would require a large amount of restoration which no-one seems willing to take on or to fund.
During the 60s in Maidstone many people were struck by Trolleybuses as you couldn’t hear them coming. I once read the number of pedestians killed by them in London during the 40s/50s exceeded diesel/petrol buses that greatly outnumbered them (4 to 1) The problem will be, people crossing the road usually use sight and hearing in the thought process to step out. A silent car will disable the hearing bit and the number of people knocked down will increase.
A way round this of course is to fit these vehicle with a couple of external 400 watt speakers and have V8 petrol engine noise (coupled to the accelerator pedal):D
Baz
I recently visited Basel in Switzerland where trams, buses, cars, bikes and pedestrians all seem to get along just fine. Folks just need to watch where they’re going.
During the 60s in Maidstone many people were struck by Trolleybuses as you couldn’t hear them coming. I once read the number of pedestians killed by them in London during the 40s/50s exceeded diesel/petrol buses that greatly outnumbered them (4 to 1) The problem will be, people crossing the road usually use sight and hearing in the thought process to step out. A silent car will disable the hearing bit and the number of people knocked down will increase.
A way round this of course is to fit these vehicle with a couple of external 400 watt speakers and have V8 petrol engine noise (coupled to the accelerator pedal):D
Baz
I recently visited Basel in Switzerland where trams, buses, cars, bikes and pedestrians all seem to get along just fine. Folks just need to watch where they’re going.
No.
Been there done that.
I had a Nissan 200SX a few years ago. I would love another one but I need a practical car these days.
My current car does 0-60 in 7.6secs and will get 50mpg (not at the same time though) and costs £155 in road tax so I get the best of both worlds 🙂
No.
Been there done that.
I had a Nissan 200SX a few years ago. I would love another one but I need a practical car these days.
My current car does 0-60 in 7.6secs and will get 50mpg (not at the same time though) and costs £155 in road tax so I get the best of both worlds 🙂
Well quite.
Some think it is going to be saved – I’m not sure where though as the site is closing in a few weeks.
Father Pewtey
Presumably you lot would have laughed at the horseless carriage 120 years ago 🙂
The fact that electric cars may not be very practical now does not mean they won’t be in the very near future.
I have two fast cars that gobble up petrol one is a Honda Prelude 2.2VTEC and the other is a Subaru Impreza. I may now only drive 50 odd miles a week but I don’t hang about getting where I am going. I pay the price for this but who cares I maybe getting on a bit but I have not slowed down.
You must be very lucky for the price of petrol not to bother you at all.
I used to run the odd gas-guzzler but I’m afraid they had to go.:(
Presumably you lot would have laughed at the horseless carriage 120 years ago 🙂
The fact that electric cars may not be very practical now does not mean they won’t be in the very near future.
I have two fast cars that gobble up petrol one is a Honda Prelude 2.2VTEC and the other is a Subaru Impreza. I may now only drive 50 odd miles a week but I don’t hang about getting where I am going. I pay the price for this but who cares I maybe getting on a bit but I have not slowed down.
You must be very lucky for the price of petrol not to bother you at all.
I used to run the odd gas-guzzler but I’m afraid they had to go.:(
Yes it will be – it had better happen soon though.