Gin Ye DaurA Wessex with bombs! I smell paella.
Indeed, a Spanish link, this actual grip is from a Spanish HA-220, a home produced jet trainer however, the exact same grip is also fitted to the Argentine (Spanish speakers), Pucarra, hence my interest in it.
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The picture was borrowed from here: http://en.valka.cz/topic/view/9348/FMA-IA-58-Pucara
Martyn
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Gin Ye DaurThat’s my broken one, I have a better one
Come on old bean, post the good one!
On a slightly different note, another ‘Dunlop’ grip ticked off the list for me late last year:
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Any guesses?
Martyn
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Gin Ye DaurIs there a Mosquito fighter control stick grip in this thread somewhere? Just haven’t had the time to take a close look. Thanks.
post #198, one of Rocketeer’s collection!
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Gin Ye Daur[QUOTE=BasD;2373462]
Hi Martyn,
Thank you very much for your information, i did not know this before.
Enclosed some pictures from my (supposedly) GAF IDS / GR.1 grip.Regards,
Bas
Hi Bas,
It is a definitely a Dunlop grip, you can see the original Dunlop AC drawing number has been altered, probably to suit the German application and stores system. The only difference I can see between your grip and the RAF F3 (AC 66814) seems to be the red ‘pickle’ button on the top right of the handle.
Martyn
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Gin Ye DaurI think so, Tony!
Ditto!
Just to elaborate slightly on my last post #1412, here is my GR1 Tonka grip from ZA596, it was sadly lost in the Gulf as a GR4 during a take off, fortunately, the two crew escaped.
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Gin Ye Daur[QUOTE=BasD;2373412]
Tony,
I too am doing a similar thing regarding the Tonka set! But, I still need to track down an early F 3 Dunlop AC 66814 to have the full set of GR1/GR4 and F3/F3 upgrade quartet!Martyn,
Do you have a picture of the AC 66814 grip? I have a set from Gr.1 , Gr.4 and F3 (both Dowty) and Gr.4 backseater but i don’t know the dunlop grip. Also, do you know from which mfr the Gr.1 grip is? (part nr SK26016, PAN SP P41004)
Cheers,
Bas
Hi Bas,
here are a couple of pics of the early Dunlop F3 grip initially fitted to the fleet. The Gr1 has the left mid handle switch blanked off (radar lock break switch on the F3) but, it is used on the German IDS aircraft, so I’m presuming that the AC 66814 is also used for the German aircraft?? Strangely, when the RAF Tornado fleet were upgraded, the new grips for the F3 and GR4 were produced by different manufacturers, Dowty (F3) and Ultra Electronics (GR4).
I don’t recognise those part numbers, can you post a picture?
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Martyn
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Gin Ye DaurThanks for the kindly comments re. my latest posts and pix, the Swift column needs the manual/power assist control rod adding on the right hand side, probably have to manufacture one, unless Air Ministry has one in his garage??
Ian, your Swift is the ‘second’ incarnation of the grip and fitted on the Mk1, 2, 3 and 4. Your Lightning grip is an AC 14248 and fitted to the F1, F1A, F2 and T4. In answer to Dan’s question, if I may, is the trim switch is totally different on this grip to all other subsequent Lightning handles. The auto pilot switch lever was beefed up too and only one push button on the top. Nice B-25 yoke Dan!
HP81, that Britannia yoke is a beauty! I remember flying back from Bahrain in one, we took of after several hours delay due to bad weather but, we still flew through a thunderstorm, I was about 8 at the time and remember being somewhat airsick!
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Gin Ye DaurNice Vampire cockpit project.
This is about the fourth time it has been on since just before Christmas, the price is gradually coming down but, if you have the space and want a cockpit it is a bargain!
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Gin Ye DaurNice to see this thread picking up a bit of steam again!
A couple of new additions that I thought I would never encounter on a collecting basis, a Supermarine Swift FR5 column and a complete Belvedere cyclic column.
The Swift has the local field modification, using a locking pin to stop the weapon trigger being operated on the ground, this is also seen on some Hunter aircraft but, only in the RAF Germany Squadrons. The Belvedere column came from fellow forumites up in the North West, (they know who they are) and I am very grateful for their ‘distribution of unwanted artefacts’!!
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Gin Ye DaurTony,
I too am doing a similar thing regarding the Tonka set! But, I still need to track down an early F 3 Dunlop AC 66814 to have the full set of GR1/GR4 and F3/F3 upgrade quartet!
Meanwhile, two other less frequent sightings have also been added to the collection: A-6 Intruder and A-7 Corsair II with their attached upper articulated transducer columns.[ATTACH=CONFIG]251217[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]251218[/ATTACH]
Martyn
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Gin Ye DaurHere is one that I managed to find and add to the collection late last year, an early (Y)B-58 column, slightly simpler grip in design to the production models but, very similar to the F-111.
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Gin Ye DaurNice spade grip and a good price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252707447126?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
JC
I fully agree with you about the current price but, when you consider the shipping costs and then the extortionate daylight robbing import duties our beloved customs servants will duly apply, the cost then goes up significantly hence, why it has been on e-bay for quite a while without a nibble! Interestingly, there is also another:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252426030391?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I expect this will soar well beyond it’s current price too!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262833391979?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Gin Ye DaurCertainly, the earlier handles were fitted across the board. However, the T5 has ‘handed’ handles as the instructor (on the right) had to fly the aircraft ‘left handed’ like, the Vulcan. That handle will obviously be a mirror image of the standard fitted and I’m supposing the ‘student’ left hand one, may differ slightly from those fitted to the single seat aircraft for, whatever reason and hence my assumption in #1365.
Martyn
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Gin Ye Daurredhillwings,
Something that you don’t see very often! The AC number on the plate refers to the Dunlop drawing number for the handle, (along with a serial number, issue number and QA stamp). Unfortunately, the plate will not reveal the actual aircraft marque. The basic handles were usually modified in service (quite a lot!) and the increasing chronological sequence of the numbers, will reflect modification changes to the grip accordingly.
Your grip has quite an early Dunlop drawing number so, according to the scant details I have, the earliest grip I can find, is numbered AC14248 which was subsequently modified and the number changed to AC60968 (mod Dunlop 3670), which affected the Mk1, Mk1A, Mk2, Mk3 and T4 aircraft.
The next reference lists the modifications (mod 912) to handles, lists AC62918 to become AC64608, AC62920 to become AC64610 and AC62922 becomes AC64612. Your grip is numbered in-between the two sets of references so, it is probably one of the early marques listed above and possibly by now; may include the Mk2A and Mk6 respectively however, these lists are not dated so I can’t be to sure.
Frustratingly, the second modification list just says ‘Lightning Aircraft’ and the close numbering of the handles, usually suggests application to different marques or, types of the same aircraft so, I would assume these last latest handles (AC64608, AC64610 and AC64612), could represent the single seat aircraft and the two different handles fitted to the T5. (That is just me putting 2+2 together, I can not confirm that is the case but, quite plausible). Perhaps someone with both examples of a T5 might be able to confirm but, these handles may well have been modified yet again to different numbers).
Finding the brake handles on their own is quite a challenge, you are probably better of trying to ‘rob’ one off a Hunter grip, as these have the parking brake lock on the same left hand side.
Although not quite exactly answering your question but, I hope it is of some help?
Martyn
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Gin Ye DaurLuftwaffe Junkers 188 yoke on eBay.
http://m.ebay.de/itm/WW2-Luftwaffe-original-complete-Siebel-Si-204-Steuerhorn-Control-stick-Ju188-/262803007982?hash=item3d3047a9ee%3Ag%3AO5gAAOSwopRYdhT5&_trkparms=pageci%253Aef840a32-e804-11e6-9e0f-74dbd1805c27%257Cparentrq%253Af6a703b11590a787f7a1bf35ffa5fe5d%257Ciid%253A12
Hmmm…. seems this has been Thwarted!
Translation:
Due to legal regulations in some countries the access to this article was unfortunately blocked. We have suspended your access to this item because we are obliged to restrict access to unauthorized items. It may happen that we block the access to offers, although the offer does not violate the legal provisions. This is due to technical limitations. We would like to apologize to you for any inconvenience this may cause and hope you find other interesting items on eBay.
However, just copy and paste the number ( 262803007982 ) into the uk ebay and it will reveal the item! Nice but………. a tad pricey unless, you play football for a premier team!!!
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