JDW report that iran is upgrading there F-14 and F-14 with russian radar system and engine,is there picture of it?

I wish!!

Since we are playing a stretching game, So y not i stretch a little aswell. So i put this stretch in the mix.
What if Stinger missiles from Pakistan find their way across the boarder to Iran. Considering its a hand held model so taking out these targets is almost impossible. What would the latest USAF A/C do against their own technology working against them.
Comments guys?

stingers are not that effective against the kind of campaign the US would be engaging. But S-300PMUs well those are a different ball game altogether and when coupled with layered SAM defenses and some form of air cover they are a challenge – a challenge that can be overcome but a challenge nevertheless..

an air war would be very interesting and in my opinion very unpredictable!nobody knows for sure how active the iranian air force is or what they could have ready for combat in a short period of time!how many fulcrums do they actually have?i think in AFM there was something about russia upgrading irans MiGs?i cant remember to what standard they said they are to be upgraded too?does anyone know what im talking about?

Cheers! Iran follows a policy of secrecy similar to China’s unlike the US. It is hard to find out what kind of inventory they have. IMHO its not known how many MiGs where upgraded or if they where upgraded at all or what exactly is irans inventory. but here is globalsecurity’s list:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milit…e-equipment.htm

Next you’ll be dragging out the photoshops of Iranian Tu-22M3! Iran has absolutely no MiG-31s in their inventory. The same goes for any opertional S-300 system. None of those appear on any threat list for the region. There is a good reason for that as none of them exist in Iranian operational service.

Stop living in a dream world! For the Iranians to operate such systems they have to train and operate them as part of their integrated defence system. And neither do they have operational MiG-25 courtesy of the Iraqis. Yet another rumour some individuals believe. It was exactly the same pre-Allied Force with fantasy claims of what the Serbs possessed.

🙂 I am not claiming to be privy to any special knowledge but you seem to know exactly what the Iranian inventory has.. if you could list your sources it would be of great interest to all of us. As far as I know, the general prevalent view is that nobody knows exactly what the iranian capabilities are and how operational their AF is. I am not claiming the MiG-31 exists per se but merely that there is a very good PROBABILITY that there is a mystery plane that the iranians have..

A-2-S: I think cruise missiles will be used but will have limited impact on the air defense assets because of the lack of intelligence..

On the MiG-31 Qtn here is a link:

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=645

There have been sporadic reports about Mig31 presence over Iran. The most recent report which was provided by UAE Air Force officials told the story of one of their pilots who could spot a fast flying Iranian fighter close to the Abu Musa Island in the Persian Gulf. The UAE pilot could clearly see the Iranian fighter flying in parallel and after a short period turning deeply into the Iranian airspace. The pilot who was on a routine surveillance and photography mission could not take any pictures of the fighter but he was almost sure it was a Mig31 and not a F-14, Su27 or Mig 29 which normally appear in the Iranian sky.

Israeli defense analysts have long tried to find out about the current capabilities of the Iranian Air Force and has therefore installed highly sensitive radars in the Iraqi Kurdistan close to Iran in order to better study the Iranian radar grids after the failed US unmanned flights into Iran which had the purpose to provoke the Iranians to turn on their radars in order for Americans to study the Iranian radar grids. However the Iranians never turned on their radars and in some rare cases they only turned on fixed radar batteries on a point wise fashion(one at a time) in order to just track the intruder’s path without giving any information about the networked air defense system.

Once the presence of Israeli experts and equipments inside Iraqi Kurdistan was confirmed in September the Iranians continue to keep their ground radar systems off, but instead increased their aerial presence in order to ensure the enemy understands the Iranian air defense system is not purely relying on its ground network. The Iranian F-14s were flying 2-3 times the normal rate at high altitudes inside Iran close to the Western and South-Western border. This was combined by high level of activities of low flying Iranian F-4s and F-5s ensuring visual contact with any low flying object entering Iranian airspace. As the Israelis and Americans were collecting data on Iranian radar capabilities, during a night in October, they could, for up to 15 minutes, spot four high flying objects close to the Iranian Western border with their radars on. The surprising fact was that the airplanes were present at an even distance of 200 km from each other and covering an amazing area of 900 kilometers from Northwest to the Southwest border of Iran by hooking up their radars. The experts were shocked by this exercise which obviously and purposefully sent out a message to the other side ensuring the attackers understand the Iranian aerial radar capabilities could during a high-alert situation become active in minutes and cover a large area.

Later on the experts were confused on how the Iranians could achieve such a degree of aerial radar capabilities as their current stock of fighters did not have any such capability. As they continued to look for an answer they could all agree on the fact that the non-confirmed Mig31 must be present in the Iranian Air Force’s inventory as that would be the only potential aircraft in Iran capable of hooking its radar and covering such a vast area.

My prediction 🙂
First day: A sudden attack is intercepted by warry Iranian pilots, but the ensuing battle results in the loss of most of the Iranian aircraft in combat – 20 planes shot down including 5 tomcats, 4 MiG-29s and 2 MiG-31s. The airdefense system is half blown out as well but the Iranians manage to ward of the attack from the nuclear sites deeper in Iran. However, Bushehr lies in complete ruin and much of the infrastructure have at least limited damage.

The US forces albeit partially successful, also suffer losses totalling 5 planes shot down – 3 of which are Super Hornets. Ironically, two of these were shot down by Iranian F-14As. The other two casualties are 1 each for the F-16 and F-15… more later