What do you need to do with it? We hire out our Trident for film work, and you wouldnt have to buy it either!

PM me if interested

Bruce

Or Gary Spoors maybe able to help with a 707….he is on the International Cockpit Collectors Club Website

It was in June last year Dave….and looking in their hangar there is no room and they have no plans of putting it inside. As you rightly say it is a shame
regards
Tony

Just remembered that in the late seventies / early eighties this was also brought up. Restorations (or overhauls as they were usually then) were also hampered by the lack of these parts. AIRSAM (former Methodical Engineers or Parker Aviation) at Bentfleet has a large warehouse but their prices are rather out of reach of most collectors. I know HFL get their spares from this source, am I right?

Cheers

Cees

Guy Black owns this stuff now

I believe this is a really serious issue for restorers and the previous post comment on collectors touches on an aspect of this whole business which I find very serious but for which I have no answer.

Being down here in NZ I wonder what people in other places have to say on this issue.

Let’s say I’m a collector (and I admit some of this is a bit of generalisation so forgive me but it is based on observation over time) I tend to collect the items that express action. So I go for how high, how fast, and the like so altimeters, rev counters, asi’s etc are my thing.

Equally I tend to buy them to put on a shelf and so I’m only going to buy a few. So I’m prepared to go to a reasonably highish level of cost as I’m not doing it every week so I go to say $NZ120 or so per instrument I’ll buy.

Now if I’m a restorer, as I am with a volunteer society, I have to find a complete set of specific insturments for a given aircraft. In my case I’m hunting down the 45 or so for a Lockheed Hudson so straight line maths says I need to spend of the order of $NZ6000 for the aircraft set.

So what is happening now is the collectors are driving up the price (especially if you end up in auction situations) but also to a degree taking the items out of circulation as it were. Equally people see a market for items of a certain type so they offer them up but what happens to the others (eg who can do me a Cambridge fuel ratiometer as opposed to the much easier to find turn and slip)?

I wonder what people think of this topic? I’m not for one minute denying the collectors their right to their hobby but I wonder about the greater good for the world and the museum aspect of it all.

Thoughts greatfully appreciated (offers of instruments and other gear even more so!).

Unfortunately it is more or less impossible to sort out the needy from the collectors. I once let a youngster have a Spitfire spade grip for peanuts…saw it on a sale stall a month later….folk will try and get as much for items as they can….pity really. Having said that, many times I have been given items for my projects because people know I am genuine.

Didnt the ex Plane Sailing one go to Ireland? Leaving the ex Greenpeace at Lee ?

I’m not directly involved with IWM or Shuttleworth,but I’m certain the collection now have full ownership,and have done for a few years. IIRC,when she was first flown she proved to be rather tail-heavy so the operating gear for the hook was removed,so I don’t think the hook has ever been used since her service days. Am I right in thinking it’s the type of hook that can only be retracted by hand once the aircraft is on the deck/ground? Would plow quite a furrow in the OW turf! 🙂

Hurricanes tend to be neutrally stable longitudinally!! I thought I’d seen a phot of the hook down…but I am getting old now!!! Lots of modern aircraft with hooks for RHAGs have to have the hook ‘retracted’ on the ground. I should know about the hook, tho’ my hurri speciality is in Mk1 & 2 aircraft

This beauty is the top falcon on an airfield in North America. He is a Red Tailed Falcon at Shearwater that has the best kill ratio. He leaves the truck at 110mph and has a Choc Lab who protects him when he is on the ground with the kill.