I’m not sure that “amusing” is quite the right word here!
well, as you know I have always had an odd SOH!!!!:D
could be a freeman battery selector switch!!
Well, I am back from DC and see this subject has continued to run!
Unfortunately, it does look very contradictory to the average reader! My tinsy summary:-
1. Displaying a collection (in a museum display) would require compliance. This is nothing new and has been going on at CockpitFest for some time.
2. For collectors in the UK, you can collect this stuff legally….fact.
3. Harm comes mainly from dust, so stay clear of glassless/cracked glass or damaged case instruments.
4. Think of a radium touched up luminous instrument as ‘original art’….ergo two copies will have different paint thickness and the ‘strength’ of the paint may also differ (as both I and Bruce have pointed out until we are blue in the face). Also, some glass is thicker than others. This then illustrates the fact that two seemingly identical and part numbered gauges can have different emmissions.
A day ago, I saw a (what I would think from experience was a) very ‘hot’ instrument in a perspex display case at the NASM. The museum had put a thick piece of glass infront of the gauge….this would reduce the dose to within regs.
This thread is interesting, but has actually confused matters to many. I have been collecting over 30 years and have taken radium instruments very seriously (see my previous threads)….it is all about risk management and commonsense for the collector. Displaying adds a dimension, that is not insurmountable. This can range from putting a barrier around the source to ensure no-one is exposed to the source at a level above that that is permitted…..to putting ‘barriers’ to reduce radiation (the majority of Ra radiation is alpha that only goes a few cm, however, the exception is the cumulative effect of several co-located sources).
To take Ian’s spit panel as an example, put it in a perspex box with a gap of 8 inches all around, with a sheet of plate glass to the front and you could probably show that off at a display quite happily.
It is a serious subject, I wish I had never done all the dumb stuff I did with instruments during my early years. Time will tell what it will have done. Now, it is all about risk management and that is what I do.
Anyway, I am jet lagged so will leave you all to it!
Regarding aircrew in front of instruments – sounds all well and good but adds completely nothing, really it is a bit like the old comedy sketch about the chap saying “do you know, if I wore this watch for the rest of my life….I would be dead??!!”
Don’t get me wrong, I would like to see NX611 flying
again in Europe. But in this economical climate it would
be a huge competition between BBMF and the Panton
Brothers for these aircraft to pay for their upkeep. And
as has been said the risk that she might crash is always
present (but that’s life of course). The way they presented
JJ as a taying exhibit also had some great merit.
If an aircraft takes off it’s gone from it’s base until it returns
What to do in the meantime at East Kirkby?
Just thinking out loud.
Cees
Though I know where you are coming from, the Panton Family is to be heavily applauded in the way they have kept the memory of their brave brother alive. The East Kirkby experience (museum is too hollow a word) is amazing and so evocative….many have been touched by it (particularly on the stairs of the tower!). They always said they wanted an RAF heavy bomber, a Halibag was not available but NX611 was. This went from dormant to living and breathing….now it progresses another step in the story of memoralising their brother, BC and that huge sacrifice.
By their action, a by product is that other families who have or had BC veterans or lost loved one can also have a tangible way of remembering.
So, in a way, we do not need another flying lancaster (trying telling the US they only need one flying Fort!!), but it is of the Panton Family’s plan and I really take my hat off to them. It has been a sheer joy to watch EK grow. It is a living memorial…..English Heritage could take a leaf out of that book.
I for one, will be delighted to see her fly. If I had all the 3 necessary ingredients (aeroplane, money and drive) I would do the same.
in the excellent ‘Test Pilots’ by Don Middleton, it recounts an event when your chap was FTO to Quill and they had fun in a Wellesley.
I may have references in other test flying books, but need to know what you have to save wasting time. Cheers Tony
PA474 will have a loading sheet in the 700….there will also be a preparation for weigh statement in the AP too (drain to unuseable fluids (ohh err!)). Modification lists give mass and balance data too.
I will have a think about possible other sources too…..Fluffy will no doubt have more knowledge on this, especially since they need to hoist items at the BBMF etc. With the impending show season etc he may be too busy though
Blue skies sir!
Nice project…fantastic….will be very nice well done!
I am into my fourth year recovering McKenna’s Mustang, sorry to revive an old thread but was wondering if anyone may have turned up anymore on this great TP?
Regards
Tony
Might have Darrell:) I sent you an email to your usual address about an unrelated matter…cheers
Yep Swordfish!!!!
pm sent old chap!! See, one should never get rid of anything!!!
Pretty sure Norfolk & Suffolk AvM, Flixton, Bungay have one (nice pub there for lunch too!)
Duxford have a few….we have a few…..indeed most museums have em! Though there are diff types….we have pre and Ww2
dont recognise it old chap
cheers old chap!