Gorgeousssss!:cool: Thanks Tenthije,I’m looking forward to seeing her take to the air again.
I have to say i don’t mind the Hendon Halifax unrestored,although I would like to see it more complete.As I understand it,a pretty considerable amount of the original aircraft would have to be replaced if it were to be able to withstand standing on it’s undercarriage again.
Going back to my question about the mid-upper turret,a number of early Halifaxes either weren’t fitted with them or had them removed to improve performance.The hole was usually covered over with plywood,which would rot away over time,leaving the hole.This is what happned with NA337 when she was recovered from Lake Mjosa a few years ago,she had a big hole and no turret (a number of Halifax’s on ‘337’s squadron had thier mid-upper turrets removed.)
“So did any fighter command aircraft fly in the battle of britain with half black/white underside colour scheme?
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In theory ‘no’. In practice almost certainly ‘yes’.
We need to talk with the BoB aviation archaeologists.
What say you Geoff (Von Perthes)?
Mark “
According to a frequently published colour plate,the Spitfire flown by Sailor Malan during the Battle had the half black undersides.
Just out of interest,was there a mid upper turret fitted to this aircraft originally?It has one now,but it doesn’t have one in the above pic.
The OFMC’s Yak-3 has gone to NZ,it’s on the boat as we speak.I’d be very surprised to see it back again,the movel ooks permenant.
As fort he P51,it’s thought it will fly again this year but the safest bet is probably just to say that it’ll be ready when it’s ready.
Hi Ashley,
The original Detroit Miss was flown by Urban Drew of the 361st FG on the day in October ’44 when he downed a pair of Me262’s in a single mission.Although he recieved no rcognition of this feat at the time,he was eventually awarded the Air Force Cross in 1983!
The ‘Detroit Miss’ in your photo will be the Scandenavian Historic Flight’s example,which for whatever reason only wore this scheme for a season or two.I believe it’s now painted up as Bud Anderson’s ‘Old Crow’.
“That Whirlwind model has me intrigued. Who makes it and what scale is it?
Wombat”
It looks very much like the 1:48th scale offering from Classic Airframes:
http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/allies/gb/cleaverwhirl.htm
I think the answer to Daz’s question is that we can’t know untill we’ve been there.If you’d asked many of the BofB pilots the same question they’d probably tell you that they don’t know how they did it themselves!
I don’t think we’d know how we’d cope in a situation like that untill we were in it.
I certainly wouldn’t have been selected for flying duties anyway,I’m blind as a bat and unfortunately I don’t have it’s echo location!!
“Absolutely – particularly with WWII German kit, which was hardly built using the best quality metals or workmanship, particularly later in the war.”
As an example to add to Damien’s comments,a production line was set up in France to build the BMW 801 for the Fw190’s which were also being built in France.The French workers frequently sabotaged these engines as they were being built,practically every engine produced was duff.
An unfortunate twist to the tale is that the French decided to keep Fw190 production going after the war (they renamed it the NC.900) and these machines utilised spare French-built BMW 801’s produced during the occupation.This meant that the rates of engine failure were extremely high,and many a French Fw was brought down by French sabotage!
“coupled with the pilots admission that the engine seized and this one has all the blades bent (but then I don’t know if that is much help).”
Judging by the damage to the wing tip and possibly also to the fuselage spine,it’s looks as though the aircraft may have flipped over on landing,hence all the prop blades being bent even though the engine was siezed.
Might it have been one of those WAR Fw190’s?Just a thought…
Thanks Wombat,that would be much appreciated.:cool:
Thanks Steve,atleast it’s not all bad news then.
I don’t think there are any other 109’s surviving with such complete original paintwork,although the 109E at IWM Duxford has had a good percentage of it’s original paint conserved,particularly on the right wing.
I’ve seen a pic of the Gustav at Canberra,and it appears that they’ve mounted it on a pole in a shady corner which seems a bit of a shame.
“wasn’t there some form of nose bands introduced for Dieppe?”
The orders given shortly before the Dieppe operation were not very specific about how and where these markings should be applied,hence they were painted on fuselages,noses etc.As far as I’m aware,there wasn’t a specific order stating that they should be around the nose.