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April 15, 2008 at 5:58 pm in reply to: Where shall I go? Fleet Air Arm or RAF Museum? #1211795

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thats a toughie

Not been to the helicopter museum for ooooo, far too many years – if the budget is an issue, stick to FAA, I think the ticket is valid two days?

Hendon was OK today, some of the airframes need my old mum and a tin of mister sheen (if the vulcan was powered up, no way would it get off the ground with that dust on it !) but lots to see, and as (per usual) the Sunderland walk through was closed, otherwise, my only grumble would be that they need to take 50p from people in the battle of britain exhibit to put in the meter so they can put the lights on!

April 14, 2008 at 10:11 pm in reply to: Where shall I go? Fleet Air Arm or RAF Museum? #1212593

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Hendon it is !

My son announced it at bed time – wants to see the Battle Of Britain museum again. FAA at half term!

Thank you all !

April 11, 2008 at 7:23 pm in reply to: Room 101 Aircraft #1215808

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still not sure but…

…Er, OK, this is where the argument falls down a bit. But it’s all in fun right? .

Fun, but worth a punt – got me looking through “interceptor” by james goulding & british secret projects.Not sure on the BP design, Martin baker maybe, MB3 & 5 (later than 1941 though) and I’ve had a soft spot for Whirlwinds for years. The Hawker Tornado didn’t seem to have the Vulture problems of the Manchester, but no range. maybe, the earlier designs, Bristol 146 would have been at a later stage (MK 4 etc?) or the Gloster F5/34? maybe I’m talking out of my hat…. but its an interesting question…

April 10, 2008 at 4:39 pm in reply to: Fighter Collection Spit Mk.XVIII #1217119

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Thirded….

Seconded!

without checking, and from memory, the markings are from a unit based in Hong Kong @ 1950, stripes as part of possible plan to deploy to Korea? there is a huge centerfold in the old wings of fame (late volume with griffon engined spits issue) with this scheme (from memory).

April 10, 2008 at 3:36 pm in reply to: Room 101 Aircraft #1217253

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can I ask XN923?

… we didn’t need them in 1940 and by 1941 we had better designs coming through – in the bin for Mitchell’s ‘finest’.

Don’t even get me started on the Seafire – that was just a waste of lives.

which designs would have come into service in 1941? am just curious, i agree with the romantic notions of saving britain etc that distort the spit & hurricane stories, but what would have gone into service in 1941?

Hurricanes at near development end, Spits at the start etc, but I’m at work and not switched on enough to think this through, but for conversations sake, what would you say could have gone into service in 1941 if no Spits?

April 10, 2008 at 3:32 pm in reply to: Room 101 Aircraft #1217261

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Balkans as well

Slightly off thread, but all this criticism of the F-3 is intriguing to me, I presume that the Yanks knew all this when it was relegated to air tanker protection during the First Gulf War and not allowed anywhere near any real action.
Is this why the plan was hatched to use Hawks with an F-3 ‘shepherd’ to face up to any attack, the Hawks obviously being superior fighters!!
Well at least the Phantoms and Jags were about up to the so called end of the Cold War, and I wouldn’t think it possible to consider shoving those types in Room 101, or do some of you service types know otherwise.

The brits had to “pressure” to have the F-3’s included to police the no-fly zones. They just wanted them out of the way, yet wanted SHAR’s there as mini AWACs with the radar. Jags, no way, they could/should do a job in Afghanistan now, even being flown until the end of their fatigue lives, the Phantoms – Spey engined are a useful nomination for room 101 surely? slower, heavier, more expensive, just like the F-35B to repeat myself from earlier !!

April 8, 2008 at 7:01 pm in reply to: The Libya SR71/Canberra pic? #1219286

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would the Brits want/need any damage assessment?

why would the RAF risk it? the SR-71 would bring back any goodies and while a canberra may have been able to get through the damaged air defences, would there be any point ?

April 8, 2008 at 6:53 pm in reply to: Room 101 Aircraft #1219387

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and the F-3 gathers votes….

Where do you start? For one the VC10 out performs it above 24,000ft from what I’ve heard.;)

As for the Typhoon, late, but WOW…:D

and you could hang 4 SkyFlash on a VC-10 with no major problems !!!:dev2:

April 8, 2008 at 6:32 pm in reply to: Room 101 Aircraft #1219404

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how many choices….?

I’m with Moggy (not in the biblical sense….:eek: ) on the F-3, utter lemon, can I add in the F-35 now, wrong forum but again we’re paying through the nose, for the heaviest and slowest of something and add in p**** poor weapons carrage and its a sham that will cost lives one day.

Battle, Sea Hawk (outdated and dismal), Helldiver (only ‘cos I get fed up with peter Smith books banging on about ’em !)…. where to finish

Tornado F-3 – utter nonsense of a concept and an aircraft…. long range interceptor that has to use after burner to refuel (!!!!) and to keep up with a TU-95…..

April 5, 2008 at 5:44 pm in reply to: RAF in India, Thunderbolts ID? #1222862

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I agree

Yeah thats the same one BGS, must have moved to Hendon in the reshuffle. Looks so different (IMO better) than the usual USAF metal schemed ones.

I waited to get the 1/72 Corgi in the SEAC colours, the lighter “green/grey” not the two tone brown on the RAF museum jobby, gives it some character I think….

April 5, 2008 at 11:00 am in reply to: RAF in India, Thunderbolts ID? #1223192

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did they move it to Hendon or do they have two?

HPS, Im slightly surprised that I was the first to answer as it isn’t my ‘area’. However I’m interested in 42 sqn, and its association with Thunderbolts, my eyes lit up when I first saw the pics!
Cosfords Thunderbolt (KL216) carries the same colour scheme as the above pics, or at least It did when I last saw it 12 years ago!

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/collections/aircraft/republic-p-47d-thunderbolt-ii.cfm

Got me digging as well, did Cosford last year, cracking place, but didn’t recall it – but this shows at Hendon?

April 5, 2008 at 10:54 am in reply to: RAF in India, Thunderbolts ID? #1223195

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This really caught my eye….

A friend provided these pics he’s scanned from the collection of his wife’s late father, a WW2 pilot in the RAF – he’s the young chap kneeling over a map, with colleagues, foreground.
Can anyone ID the squadron markings and the aircraft type? I think they’re Thunderbolts but don’t know much about those, so… And any other comments would be welcome.
Thanks, HPS

I had an English teacher at school who died 1983/84 – name of William Elford. Real old NON PC type (well, PC wasn’t invented then…) saw himself as a Falstaff type figure, anyhow, ex RAF fighter pilot, flew Hurricanes and P-47’s in the far east. We never knew when the stories blurred, but he always claimed 5 kills (I can’t trace him in aces high etc) and an escape from a japanese POW camp (boys own ?) he later remustered and flew Hunters, left just as Lightnings came into service. Great teacher, perfect for a bunch of 14 year olds to worship, thought for a moment he may have been in the pics.

March 28, 2008 at 9:42 am in reply to: Nice Halibag Item for Cees #1233371

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Room for a small one Mr Broere?

I prefer cheddar rather than Gouda.

No space in the windmill, too much Halifax bits. Tried to store some of it at Tony C’s house. But he has a thing for Avro, and that clashes.:p

Cees

http://www.flyingmule.com/products/IX-2008-27

These guys do some unusual die-casts (HE-177, Defiant, DC-4 etc) and that coastal scheme looks grand on your favourite lady if I may so say…..

I spend a bit of time in your homeland, Tilburg area via Eindhoven airport, have spent a few happy hours watching the B-25 when it was there being worked on or air testing etc.

March 22, 2008 at 6:03 pm in reply to: Anyone recognise this? #1238393

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Ray Hanna and a blurred Spitfire

For Piece Of Cake?

March 19, 2008 at 1:19 pm in reply to: Seversky P-35 in England, 1939 #1240046

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thank you both

“A BRITISH Air Ministry team was introduced to the planes a Martlesham Air Base in Suffolk, before Seversky flew the EPI-68 to Southampton, to Supermarine’s Woolston factory. There its’ top test pilot flew the plane, while Seversky flew Supermarine’s Spitfire for 30 minutes.”

from your link, Jeffry Quill was top pilot? alex henshaw? thanks anyway, curious
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