To point the thread back on track , AH is 51, please don’t anyone tell me that is too old.
Very sad news.
RIP
Trumper made a valid point
Having seen a poorly executed landing and very late goaround in the P40 at Duxford and a test flight in the new Hawk 75 where power dropped and altitude lost due to a distraction and also a Spitfire display with undercarriage not fully retracted the past few years then this wasn’t a moment too soon. I suspect that pride overrides sensibility at times and therein lies a problem.
You saw the P40 ‘thrown away landing’ too? He did well to recover that, a lesser pilot may have exacerbated the problem.
I last visited around 18 months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it , then it was up to OW straight after for their end of season show,( of course back in those days you could be spontaneous and go to a show and buy a ticket on the gate):rolleyes:
I’m looking forward to heading back there to see the Mossie prototype.
It’s surprising this still happens, randomly pick up any article on flying a warbird or tail dragger and there are references to the lack of view over the nose……..bad enough in a Spitfire , non existent in a Corsair.
I always remember the late ,great Brian Lecomber stating how surprised you would be at the things that can conceal themselves out of view from the cockpit of a taildragger, and BL was usually to be found in much smaller tail wheel types!
Great video and update, although i seem to recall not every forum member shared in our praise for the pilot!
I’ll just have to tolerate the F15 and its undersized tail codes :p
Another ready to dream along. The conservation is marvellous news but a white B1 would be the icing on the cake!!:eagerness:
If it ended up white they’d have to stick to their promise of keeping it indoors !
It’s a great shame how the collection disappeared. I always assumed David would take over the running of the collection after Doug passed.
Late 80’s and their Biggin hangar was a treasure trove.
It was their intention to set up their facility at Biggin along the lines of the superb BHHH.
Excellent news, let’s hope it retains a camo scheme.
If we are talking about the same forum, I found it hilarious that posters there were complaining about a pikey family turning up at the naughty and ruining their kip the night prior. If you drag £1000s of pounds of camera equipment around with you, but duck out of paying the entrance fees and instead view the airshow from adjacent agricultural land to save a few bob and drag your extended family along and expect them to sleep in tents then you are pretty much a pikey yourself. :highly_amused:
And then they complain about poor airshow attendance and dull display line-ups… from the stubble field beyond the perimeter fence.
Sounds like same forum. Started brilliantly until being hijacked bizarrely by a foursome of rabid New Labour
supporters, one of them still remains ,campaigning tirelessly for Lockheed Martin and the F35……..apparently the Eurofighter Typhoon is rubbish too.
“But the members of one forum are seemingly preoccupied with the chance of much reduced photo opportunities and the eradication of their beloved naughty fields, the other forum is led by an exRAF pilot who hunts down posters who even suggest the pilot may possibly have been to blame, by demanding to know how much military fast jet time they have otherwise they can’t comment……..even former Hunter TWU pilots have been put in their place if they utter the dirty words”
Sounds a bit like it may be worth your while giving AngryAviation.com a bit of a swerve (as we say in Essex)
I lurk there and rubberneck, it was fun when the late, great ‘Winkle’ Brown gave his verdict a few months back.
Indeed, from the dictionary:
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opinion (Noun)
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment.
…This forum seems to suffer too much from opinion of the first and second sort. And too little of the third.
Can we now get back on topic?
Unbelievable
I laugh when I read stuff like this. Aircraft crashing on innocent people doing their own business with no interest in what the aircraft is doing is what is being investigated. Because it maybe upsetting you view on your hobby has nothing to do with it . The AAIB has already issued several reports including question marks on the aircraft fitness to fly within the remit of its permit. The CAA has a legal responsibility to enforce the law as stated in the ANO and have to self fund to do so. If it requires more people and money to regulate air shows and civil display authorisations, so be it. Flying over UK airspace must always be safety first, everything else is of secondary importance IMHO (as a professional aviation engineer). It can be nothing else and anyone whom thinks otherwise is deluded.
It’s a sad fact that on many of the forums that the theme seems to be more about what the airshow goers /photographers / enthusiasts are set to lose and not one mention of the real victims in this, the 11 families watching each of their loved ones milestones going by birthdays,Father’s Day, anniversaries etc.
Added to the list are the people left with life changing physical and mental scars.
But the members of one forum are seemingly preoccupied with the chance of much reduced photo opportunities and the eradication of their beloved naughty fields, the other forum is led by an exRAF pilot who hunts down posters who even suggest the pilot may possibly have been to blame, by demanding to know how much military fast jet time they have otherwise they can’t comment……..even former Hunter TWU pilots have been put in their place if they utter the dirty words.
And in all those pages, not one thought or sentiment for the real victims in all this.
If airshows do come a cropper after all this, well then I have my memories, last years events left me with an uncomfortable feeling and airshows will never be the same again.
Mike J – I’m not sure how you can offer the collision of the RAF Vintage Pair Meteor and Vampire as evidence against flying vintage jets, unless you can demonstrate that merely being jet powered was a contributory factor in causing the collision. Otherwise how was it so different from the Mustang and Skyraider at Duxford?
Similarly,the Biggin Vampire loss was most probably caused by wake vortices from the leading Sea Vixen .