I just read a letter from Bob Collings Re: the B17, B24, and B25 thanking all the people that wrote letters to the FAA. As a result he received notice that their permit to fly passengers will be renewed.
I also wish to thank the people who responded to the plea.
I wouldn’t be able to with money as i have none at the moment (poor student) but if they want any help with a website etc or spreading the word just let me know
This is not a plea for money, just an e-mail letter. It might impress them to get mail from the UK and down under, showing that people from far away object to their destroying living history. Please write.
Great Cause Jule’s mate.
Cannot help me self this end due to poor health(and money no more), but good on ya mate for backing this, I can just imagine what this must mean to all of you exx WW2 flying living legend’s.
Such a damn shame we can not keep all of you Hero’s flying forever too Jule’s mate!
All the best and good luck with it, I hope you are still keeping good health.
From Phil.J.Nanki downunda.
STill a MOST interesting thread, keep it ROLLIN!!!
This is not a plea for money, just an e-mail letter. Please write to them
I would love to know that people from U.K. and down under let them know how you feel. It might make an impression if they get mail from far away places
Collings Foundation bombers B17, B224 and b25
Would you help to keep the Colljngs Foundation bombers flying?
The Collings Foundation B17, B24 and B25 permit to fly the planes for 30 minutes with paying passengers (to help defray the costs of flying and maintaining the aircraft ) will expire in 2 weeks. To help getting the permit renewed please write to the follwing and include in your letter the specifc info that I will enumerate.
Marion Blakey, FAA Administrator e-mail [email]marion.blakey@faa.gov[/email]
Ida Klepper, Office of Rulemaking e-mail [email]ida.klepper@faa.gov[/email]
Collings Foundation exemption letter 6540
B 17 N93012
B 24 N224J
B 25 N3476G
It would be a terrible thing for living history to go down the drain, and to deprive future generations of the WW2 era. My generation will not be around too much longer, so please write and help to keep them flying
Please snd me a copy of your letter, also let them know where you reside
Collings Foundation B17, B24 and b 25
Would you help to keep the Colljngs Foundation bombers flying?
The Collings Foundation B17, B24 and B25 permit to fly the planes for 30 minutes with paying passengers (to help defray the costs of flying and maintaining the aircraft ) will expire in 2 weeks. To help getting the permit renewed please write to the follwing and include in your letter the specifc info that I will enumerate.
Marion Blakey, FAA Administrator e-mail [email]marion.blakey@faa.gov[/email]
Ida Klepper, Office of Rulemaking e-mail [email]ida.klepper@faa.gov[/email]
Collings Foundation exemption letter 6540
B 17 N93012
B 24 N224J
B 25 N3476G
It would be a terrible thing for living history to go down the drain, and to deprive future generations of the WW2 era. My generation will not be around too much longer, so please write and help to keep them flying
Please send me a copy of your letter, also be sure to let them know where you reside.
[email]jhor9@comcast.net[/email]
I would like nothing better then to fly a B17 on another B17s wing. It would bring back a lot of memories.
This is as big as I’ve gone, a 1/6 scale B-17G spanning a little over 17 feet, but I don’t think I’d go bigger and get in it. It has a 130lbs take off weight, and just over 18HP to get it up there. Like the fullsize, my Fortress takes two pilots to fly. The pilot has the inboard engines and the flying controls, while the co-pilot has the flaps, landing gear and the two outer throttles which are independant. When taking off in a cross wind, the co-pilot advances the upwind engine more than the other to control the weather-cocking!!! Pure teamwork, just like the full size.
Length – 12 feet 4.5 inches
Take off Weight – 130 pounds
Wing Area – 39 sq ft
Engines – 2 x 3W-60cc & 2 x 3W-40cc Electronic ignition gasoline engines
Radio – Futaba FC-18 & Field Force 7
Fuel Capacity – 1 Gallon ( Imperial Gallon )
Retracts – Scratch Built Pneumatic Units with 9.5 inch diameter trailer jockey wheels
Propellers – Smart Wood 22 x 8 inch Pilots – 2Build Time – 11 Months for silver finish to test fly airplane, then 6 months of detailing and repainting into olive drab after test flight.
Surface Finish – Z-Poxy and 1/2 ounce glass cloth, with full surface panel and rivet detail. Fabric control Surfaces.
B-17G-BO-1 was only the fourth model ‘G’ Fortress made, “Hang The Expense” flew on the raid to Norway to attack the German “Heavy Water” plant. The Bombardiers compartment contains a piece of aluminum recovered from the crash site of the original airplane that flew with the 351st Bomb Squadron, 100th Bomb Group, based at Thorpe Abbotts in Norfolk, England in 1943.
Steve
It’s hard to believe that you were able to get the plane to fly
The 2 pilots that fly that baby have a more difficult job then flying a full size plane.I wouldn’t want to be 1 of the 2 pilots . It takes perfect coordination to handle that plane- I think?
I wouldn’t take on a job like that, because it would break my heart to see it crash
Is this meaning you didn’t wash them for all that time? :rolleyes:
Nope, it was just supersticious, most people had their own quirks. After finishing my alloted 50, I just discarded them.
Having seen the 1/2 scale P47 ‘Jug’ in Sept Pilot (sorry key!) and a story earlier in the year on an Australian Spitfire Rep, it got me to thinking…..
Has anyone built a Multi-engined Replica, such as a B17, B29 or Lanc?
In the Ship-Modelling world I have seen large-scale Aircraft carriers where the owner is sat at the back with his head sticking out of the Lift shaft!
I know that a group of Belgians built a 29 foot span Radio Controlled B29 (4 x 130CC motors!), but wouldn’t it be fantastic to have a single/two-seat replica B17 or Lancaster where it had a bubble canopy part way down the fuselage (you could replace it with a hatch cover for static display)
I will have to play with the dimensions, but the ultimate would be a 1/2 or 1/3rd scale Lockheed 1049 Constellation Super G…….
I am planning a 10′ span one for RC, but if I scale up the drawings and add a bit of balsa here and there…….fit a small seat…..
Just interested to see if anyone has as warped imagination as me…..
A radio controlled model plane club have frequent meets in the Ft Lauderdale- Boca Raton, Fla. area. Among all different types, including a jet, and a helicopter that flies, There also were quite a few British warbirds among them. I was entranced by a B-17. The plane had a 10 ft wing span ( one ninth scale ) it looked like the real thing while flying. wheels and flaps working, it was able to have smoke streaming from an engine.
The owner told me that it took 3 years to build at a cost of $10,000. He donated it to the Smithsonian Museum in Wash, DC, it’ new home
My last 7 missions were flown with differant crews, since my own crew finished before me.I flew either element or sqdn lead. I really didn;t get to know the crews, who were relatively new.
Except for my original radioman who had been in the hospital. He flipped his lid when the original crew finished, people get very superstious. I then assured him that he would only fly with me to finish his tour.
People have said that there was a relief tube in the flight deck or close by, but i don’t remember any , so I used the bomb bay, Just a stream that froze when it hit the metal below.
I don’t recall any ritual that the crew had. I know that i wore the same trousers and the soft flight cap (not the one with the visor) for each of my 50 flights. When I finished, my trousers were able to stand erect with no help from me. My flight cap was not recognizable as tan chino color, it was mostly black.
Mr. Horowitz it was quite a long flight. I hope you had some kind of auto-pilot on your big bird (and toillete or WC)
😉 😀
When over enemy territory I never would use autopilot. Each plane had 2 pilots
I would find relief using the bomb bay
While in or even out of service did you get the chance to fly in any other types of combat aircraft.
thanks dave…..
No, The only combat plane that I flew was B 17. My combat hours were about 475+/-
Being only an Indian and not a chief, I was unaware of 8th AF planes landing in N.Africa. I was already operational, since I started flying combat missions in July. I did know of the B24 group that staged out of Wheeler fld in Tripoli, Libya, when they made their low level attack at Ploesti, which I think was in August.
Forgive me if I am mistaken, since I have no books to refer to, just memory
lav;
Inever met any german fighter pilots. I’m going to my group reunion in mid Oct.
Je T.
My fist trip to Weiner Neustadt was on Nov 1, 1943. We flew from Tunis, N.Africa. The distance was 1007/900 miles, we were airborne 13 1/2 hours, we were staged to land at Gela, Sicily, spend the night , get enough fuel to enable us to return to base. Subsequent trips were flown from Foggia, Italy.
Interesting comment: I slept under the open bomb bay doors on a blanket, in the morning the engines were preflighted. I was out cold, 4 engines running and I’m about 15-20 feet away. and I never heard them.