Sorry Barry I cant help with that incident but if you are interested in Scottish Hurricane crashes I did post this some time ago.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30210&highlight=hurricane+fergus
Excellent and exciting news – thanks for posting. Great to hear that another Hunter is earning it’s keep and that HHA are finding work for these machines having spent so long plugging them with no return. 🙂
I have this vision of a hand slipping on the throttle and it disappearing down that track at the speed of light!:eek: 😮 😮
Had something similar to that a few years ago in my garden with a Jetex engine! 😮 DDDUUUUCCCCKKKKKKK…….wwwwweeeeeee…..:eek: 😀
Wel done to those that have got this masterpiece running again.
Lovely selection of photo’s – nice to see a selection of real aircraft for a change! 😀
Well I have just been reading this thread and thought I would share my views on the subject.
First of all I would like to say that I am a supporter of Kemble and the great developments and activities there.
Now don’t shoot me but I can see exactly what exmpa is saying reference the way that complaints and objections should be handled, I think they call it professionally. I have no doubt that the lawyers and operators of the airfield are handling the objections in a better way than some of the comments made on this thread. I also understand the knee jerk reactions posted by some people here, I myself have been guilty of them in the past. This of course all stems from what I can see as the main problem which is a lack of tolerance.
There are many things I’m sure that each of us would choose to change should we ever be in a position to. The simple fact is that most of us wouldn’t because we respect the rights of the individual to indulge in there preferences as long as these things are hurting nobody or being anti-social to the point of ‘real’ discomfort. I for one would ban petrol lawnmowers (especially on a Sunday morning!) or people being drunk in the street at night (unless it was me!), but I show tolerance and don’t comment on either. The lack of tolerance shown by these Nimby’s must not be matched by a similar lack of tolerance on our behalf. Hopefully Kemble can prove that it not only has the support of the public but that it is the more tolerant and professional in any argument that is presented.
Now to add my 5 pence to a couple of points raised.
‘The argument is over the licensed use of the airfield’
This may of course be the reason given for the complaint but in reality it has nothing what so ever to do with the problem. The problem is that for some reason the operators on the airfield have upset the Nimby’s and this is the only loophole they can find to try and get the airfield closed. I very much doubt any of them thought ‘oh, there’s an airfield over there, lets see what it’s licensed for before we buy our house’. I doubt the opposition have really thought there argument through though as if the local operators were to close and force the airfield owners to concentrate on maintenance I’m sure they would find a significant increase in noise levels as engine testing on aircraft is very noisy and would effect a far greater area. I wonder if anybody has thought to take along the comparable sound footprint of a Hunter taking of and perhaps a practice display compared to a 747 going through the full envelope of engine testing? I know having lived near a maintenance operation which I would prefer.
‘Kemble does not provide a public service’
Yes this is true using the accepted definitions of the term. However what Kemble does provide is a public venue for various events. It also has gone out of its way (in my opinion) to make the general public welcome and informed. The events held there every year bring joy and pleasure to many tens of thousands of people. Lets also not forget the inspiration that organisations like Delta Jets and Extreme Team can bring to people, I’m sure that the thought of owning a Hunter or flying for Extreme has been a driving force behind at least some people’s desire to build a business or help expand a company all of which helps put money into the economy and thus allows the Countries current good economic climate to continue and people to be able to buy the houses they want to protect.
At the end of the day nearly everyone in this country is involved in a minority interest and most create noise pollution or other activities that some people will not like. We must all be tolerant and not succumb to selfish endeavours.
A sad day indeed, but what a life to have led – blue skies forever Neville.
My mother who was an aviation fan from a small age died last month. At the funeral when we were focusing our thoughts I had this overwhelming image of her waving at me from her favourite Rapide (G-AIDL) as she flew higher and higher and into the clouds above. Tonight as I raise a pint of Adnams Broadside to Neville I’m thinking of him doing the same only from WB188.
My condolences to his family and friends.
If nobody minds here is a picture taken of him at Kemble last year with 2 fellow Hunter men.
WOW – now thats just flippin gorgeous! 😮 😀 😎
If she is to get a RN paint scheme I hope that one day she can be returned to her historical Red Bull colour scheme complete correctly sized decals etc. :dev2:
Good work Fella 😎
An excellent well written article Alan. All points covered and very informative. 🙂
Indeed G-APDB does look fantastic in her new BOAC colours and I think they are highly appropriate for all the reasons that Bruce has said, my only concern would be what kind of message are they sending out by doing this? Would an airline that was thinking of donating an airframe to a museum to preserve a little of it’s heritage now think twice on the grounds that once it has gone bust or been brought it’s wishes would be disregarded and thus make the whole operation pointless?
It now seems that the CAA have stated that they will let a Shackleton fly again in the UK if the main spar is replaced, it will be either the one at Coventry or the one in America (it will be coming back to the UK this summer).
However now for the bad news the cost of the work will be about 3 million quid.
As far as the CAA is concerned I don’t think there postion has changed. As Creaking Door has said the main problem lies with Bae as design authority. They have (as I understand it) said that they will not entertain a Shackelton flying in this country due to the spars being passed there fatique life. The only way I can see the situation having changed is if Bae have said that they will co-operate should a re-spar of an airframe take place, which I dont think is anything new. I’m sure Atlantic Airmotive could carry out the work involved it just depends on how deep Mike’s pockets are as he would never see a return on his investment.
What can I say Tim – Fantastic! 😀 😎
36 Hunters in the sky together, who says you die and go to heaven? Sounds to me like heaven was a place on Earth.
Nothing THAT drastict! 😮
But she is currently being repainted in a pseudo New Zealand Air Force Transport scheme.
I don’t know what their collecting policy is but IWM is a Museum of Warfare therefore almost any military machine would surely be relevant.
Roger Smith.
Well it’s the Imperial War Museum, which refers to the British empire – so that should narrow it down abit.
Relevant or not I’m sure it would mean plenty of ‘bucks’ through the door which would benefit the collection as a whole. Part of the whole balancing act of keeping a museum within it’s remit and bringing in the punters.