GoldustNope, but nuclear powered rovers have been to Mars, which is far more interesting(and complex) than the Moon. But hey, congrats to making it to the place some countries where 20 years ago.
There’s nothing on Mars. There is helium 3 on the Moon, which is a valuable commodity.
I realise you are splitting hairs here but nuclear battery’s or to give there more accurate name “Radioisotope thermoelectric generator” are nothing new and have been used on the moon by the Americans during the Apollo program for their “Apollo Lunar Surface Experiments Package (ALSEP)” from 1969.
A nuclear battery is what powers a T-800 terminator.
GoldustCrowing over the fact that China will land a probe on the Moon when it represents something others achieved long ago and the UK could do if it so wanted to invest money that way is Childish.
No nuke powered rover has ever been put on the Moon, not that I know :eagerness: Chang’e 3 will be the first.
GoldustChinese J-11, i.e. a Russian Flanker. All I can say is, we all know what China can do when they produce a direct copy of the Rolls Royce Phantom… Brrrr…
But the UK cannot plant a rover onto the Moon like China can later this year. A RRP is technologically nothing compared to Chang’e 3 :eagerness:
GoldustLook up Anatolian Eagle 2010.
If Turkish F-4s smashed Chinese J-11s it would have been because the Chinese let them out of friendship :eagerness:
Let’s be honest. The Turkish air force can’t even beat the Syrian air force, let alone the Chinese air force.
GoldustSince when is Israel going to bomb UAE? Why would they do that?
UAE pilots also have combat experience having flown missions during Libyan War. When’s the last time any PLAAF pilots got any combat experience? 1979 and then they performed badly!
Israel is a Jewish country. UAE is a Muslim country. Make no mistake, UAE is on Israel’s radar oh yes it is! 🙂 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_Arab_Emirates_relations
GoldustNice slightly racist trash talk but of not much use. The UAE participated in Red-Flag 2011 with their F-16 Block 60, everything I have read on that visit states they were capable and professional. Considering you can’t even decide if it has a PESA or AESA radar again you can’t categorically state the J-10B is more advanced. It is potentially advanced but until we learn more it is purely speculation. On the other hand what is installed in the Block 60 is public domain, the systems installed are cutting edge in respect of the US aerospace industry. Actually I have heard the Block 60 described as an F-16 with the electronic guts or an F-35.
If Israel bombs UAE, every UAE fighter pilot probably hides in home ahem yup 🙂
Oh, found it. J-10B’s radar is AESA rather than PESA. The Ruskies also have AESA on MiG-35.
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GoldustIn case you haven’t noticed Obama is really reluctant to get involved in Syria, especially after Libyan intervention saw warlordism take over in that country, strengthened Al Qaeda and has given them a base of operations for operations into other countries such as Mali.
Turkish F-4 pilots “smashed” PLAAF/PLAN Su-27/J-11 pilots in 2010. That say’s it all.
Syria is a Russian ally. If Obama can invade, he would. It’s because he can’t. PLAAF could wipe out the entire Turkish air force in less a week if it comes to a war between the two. So don’t start with the ahem BS 🙂
GoldustJ-10B can fly up to Mach-2, that is nice. How is that exciting or radical? America and France were making combat jets doing that in the 1950’s! It’s armed with the PL-12, great! What is its performance in comparison to the AMRAAM or MICA? Oh yes we don’t know. We do know that America and France have been producing Active Radar Air to Air missiles longer then China.
PL-12 is active radar homing with a range of at least 100 km with a speed of Mach 4 or so. That’s good enough to shoot anything out of the sky.
So you don’t even know if its a PESA or an AESA. In other words you have no clue about its performance vs anything else.
I don’t have to. Rafale has PESA and killed the entire Libyan air force with only like 4 planes used. According to a Chinese exhibition poster, J-10B’s radar is AESA. In any case, it’s top tier technology.
What are the technical details of that FBW system, oh yeah you don’t even know what type of radar it has.
It is quadruplex digital FBW derived from the Iron Bird prototype. It’s top tier technology. That’s all we need to know.
Well it has avionics we and even more importantly have no idea of their performance or qualities.
So to sum up, for all the nationalistic chest thumping you haven’t got anything to back up your assertions.
We know it’s top tier and as evidence has it, we know it stops Americans from oppressing any country in the world including Syria and protects justice in the world by preventing American imperialism from toppling any country’s legitimate head of state. That’s good enough in my books.
GoldustGiven a UAE pilot and a PLAAF pilot, I’d say it’s a fare contest.
Chuck an Israeli or American into either jet and that’s your winner.
As for end of Western imperial domination and Syria, Syria has nothing to do with Russia/China and everything to do with Western war weariness and the situation in Syria spiralling into sectarian violence with a large splash of Al Qaeda thrown in.
If the US wanted, it could smash the Syrians with ease. After all the Israelis fly over Syrian air space with absolute impunity.
Had it not been for China and Russia vetoing multiple UN Security Council Resolutions, Assad would have long been long dead by now. It is because of China and Russia that the Syrian people will decide if Assad continues to be president or not.
As you mentioned, Israeli jets can fly over Syria with impunity. J-10B jets piloted by Chinese pilots could easily best F-16E jets by piloted by UAE pilots.
That looks like a formation light strip to me.
But it doesn’t matter as J-10B looks scarier.
Looks like it’s a jammer antenna. There three of these on each side. Here’s the same left side view.
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GoldustWe know nothing about the avionics on the J-10B or their performance, we know what avionics are fitted to the Block-60.
J-10B is around Mach 2, armed with PL-12. We know it’s a deadly plane.
The US has been producing state of the art avionics for far longer then China, until we know what is exactly installed on the J-10B and there general operating profile we can’t say if it is superior or inferior.
J-10B has at least PESA, most likely AESA. It has digital quadruplex FBW far more advanced than the ones on Taiwan’s F-16 and Mirage 2000. We know J-10B has Tier 1 avionics amongst the very best in the world.
GoldustA DSI inlet is hardly a new development and purely an aerodynamic solution. It has been tested on the F-16 as shown above but nobody has seen the need to push it. As for the Mirage 2000, a DSI inlet would not be of use over its variable shock cone for its project operational profile.
Experimental planes don’t count. Just because the Japanese made a supersonic experimental plane in WW2 doesn’t meant squat. JF-17 and J-10B are currently the only operational jets having DSI.
We know next to nothing about the avionics fitted to the J-10B, the avionics fitted to the Mirage-2000 and F-16 come from manufacturers with a known performance reputation. The J-10 appears to have an entirely conventional aluminium structure with some composites like the F-16 and Mirage 2000. So in the case of avionics and design we can’t say that the J-10B is superior.
Look Goldust if you are going to trash talk at least make sure that what you are saying is actually the case.
Mirage 2000-5 has a narrow angle HUD, not a wide angle HUD like J-10B has. As for reputation, the days of Western domination are over. The West can’t do squat in Syria or any other country anymore because BRICS says the days of Western imperialism are OVER. Technologically, J-10B blows away F-16E the one UAE has. Bring an F-16E up against a J-10B and I guarantee you it would be shot out of the sky so fast it would be funny.
J-10B’s AESA cooling vent is pretty much the same as the one on F-16E. J-10B looks scarier than F-16E due to DSI air intake.
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GoldustThirdly, what proof is there that a J-10B is better than an F-16 or M2000-5?
J-10B has bump intake, phased array radar, big holographic HUD, none of which F-16 or Mirage 2000-5 have. In terms of avionics and design, F-16 and Mirage 2000-5 are nowhere close to J-10B.
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Not likely in the short-term if ever………..
But only a matter of time. China is over 268 times the size of Taiwan. The ChiCom party cannot lose power in China, and it’s only a matter of time until elections break down in Taiwan.
GoldustWhilst there’s spares available, the F-CK-1/ F-16 and Mirage 2000 would all be useful to replace J-7 and J-8s as well as Aggressor Squadrons.
Can one imagine an F-16 or M2000 in PLAAF/PLAN colours (though didn’t the Chinese show interest in 200+ Mirage 2000s in the past?).
Why would PLAAF keep F-16A and Mirage 2000-5 when their J-10B are at least half a generation more advanced? Chinese military doesn’t have a habit of using Western equipment. For instance, Norinco manufactures M-16 / M-4 clone known as CQ which is only for export and not used by PLA.
Goldustwhen Taiwan unites with PRC, i wonder what China will do with all the Ching-kuos.
would they keep them? use them to replace j-7s?
would they rename it to Mao?
Why would PLAAF keep them when they already have J-10B which are a generation more advanced? They would be scrapped IMO.
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GoldustNot bad.
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