What about the all moving tails of J-20? Is that an innovation? :confused: Another innovation on J-20, improving upon F-22’s design. http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ain-defense-perspective/2013-04-05/china-claims-innovation-j-20-weapons-bay-design
J-10B and Type 052D, both of which are delivered this year, completely outmatch their Taiwanese F-16C Block 20 and Kidd counterparts. Even if Taiwan gets F-16C Block 50 from America, which it won’t, it would still be completely outmatched. J-10B > Typhoon, Rafale, F-16E Block 60. Type 052D > latest Arleigh Burke, Type 45, FREMM, Horizon, Sachsen
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If it is based on the Patriot, surely there are intellectual property rights the US could use to try to use to appeal the competition?
um nop because Israel transferred those and Israel controls America
Nothing out of the ordinary – except all the bits of the recipe that can be used to counter it though jamming etc.
Some of the most classified stuff in defence is Electronics and Signals because it’s the key to the kingodm. If you can jam or electronically fry an enemy’s system you’ve won the battle (e.g. Israeli jamming and then destruction of Syrian AD systems in Lebanon in 1982 or even Israeli neutralisation of Syrian AD in 2012-13).
Though the launch vehicle resembles that of S300, HQ-9 and HT-233 are very very similar to their Patriot counterparts. In fact, HT-233 is based off Patriot’s radar, all shipped from Israel to China. Like I said, the Americans are welcome to take a look if they wish to do so. :eagerness:
Now if only they can export JF-17.
Pakistan has no intellectual rights to JF-17. All Pakistani JF-17 are assembled from Chinese made components.
At least the US and co will be able to have a look to see what makes HQ-9s tick.
It’s an interesting choice though.
Are Turkish HQ-9s different to Chinese ones? Selling one of your main AD systems to a country in a strong alliance with your main enemy seems like a risky proposition unless it’s a downgraded system.
And even if downgraded, you’re still giving a lot away in terms of intel.
HQ-9 works the same way as Patriot PAC-3. The Americans can take a look if they want to. The Americans won’t find anything much out of the ordinary. Turkish HQ-9 would be the same as Chinese HQ-9. Can Patriot fire vertically?
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The Chinese Israeli co developed Qoros 3 car is the first Chinese car scoring max 5 stars and outperformed all other cars crash tested in 2013.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8Ip7c1Eulyo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qoros
J-10B is also a Chinese Israeli co developed war jet. Whereas Israel has barred India’s LCA from ever using Israeli AESA, J-10B is equipped with a highly capable AESA based on the Israeli Elta EL/M-2052 AESA. Taiwan BETTER watch out.
Turkey has selected HQ-9 over Patriot PAC-3 after thorough evaluation. HQ-9 is one of the most advanced and capable air defense missiles in the world, and operates with HT-233 phased array air defense radar. Taiwan better watch out.


J-10 first flight March 1998, delivered in 2003. J-20 first flight January 2011. Can delivery be expected in 2014 or 2015?
Does anyone know what is the RCS of a person say 5’10” 160 pounds? :confused: I think maybe 0.5 to 1 square meters.
Suppose F-22 has an RCS of 0.0001 square meters. That means from the front, its radar reflectivity equals that of a 0.0001 square meters piece of sheet metal oriented perpendicular to the radar waves. This is impossible because the engine blades of an F-22 alone are well over 0.0001 square meters in RCS.
There may be a misunderstanding here. I am not on a self-appointed crusade to defend individual writers journalists or journalists, or their profession en masse. What I an often trying to do is attack unreasoned opinions, such as:
1 Blind faith in alleged magical properties of technologies such as AESA radar, signal processing, or the hardware developed by a poster’s favourite country or company (for example).
2 Unreasoned criticism of specific weapon systems, companies, technologies (such as stealth), or specific writers/commentators on defence topics.
3 Unrealistic assessments of weapon-system survivability based on data samples that are too small to provide useful results (for example, aircraft loss rates during the campaign against the former Yugoslavia).
For some of our forum members to confidently declare that stealth does not work, that the F-16 was more survivable in combat than the F-117, or that a widely-respected journalist/magazine/publisher is peddling junk are all equally absurd. So you must excuse me if I occasionally beat to quarters, open the gunports, and fire off a broadside in response.
Oye, had fun shooting down a few basic MiG-29 which lacked spare parts for years, had little trained pilots, lacking missiles, barely airworthy? Wow, big tough men picking on unworthy opponents. Try taking on well maintained well trained Chinese J-11B and see what happens. :dev2:
Maybe Kenya would be interested. Kenya bought a few Z-9 helicopters from China recently.
And why would China need to buy F-16 when it can simply get a Lavi from Israel and copy it? :eagerness:
IMO maybe the Chinese would have gone for some F-15s, then stolen the technology, and copied the whole stuff ala what they did with Su-27.