What an excellent subject started by the hot saucage nr. 20!

Was it a coincidence that it was started on May 17th, the Norwegian constitution day? Who knows…

My completely, 100% biased opinion is that of course the Skjold class completely outstrips that other boat by far:

1. Speed of course as others have mentioned.
2. Stealth characteristic is probably much better on the Skjold
3. It got some world-class sensors
4. Networking capabilities
5. It has better seakeeping capabilities
6. The NSM is due to it’s stealth characteristics one of the most lethal missiles out there.
7. It got a real cannon

but China can build more and have longer range missile. no contest

this j-10 is in serbia paint. very nice. more j-10 is built than Rafale and at same number as Eurofighters, but future of j-10 will be longer because eurofighter country near end of production.

Nansha, Xisha, and huangyan is part of China in Han dynasty but other part of China part of other dynasty. Tibet is Chinese dynasty.. in China long history many Chinese dynasty exist outside main one. Tibet and Chinese have same origin. difference is same like East Germany and West Germany or when US was two country, two country but same nation. cannot bring in example of Egypt or Pakistan because those are new country. China have many thousand year history.

China navy has to do best to keep territory respected that is why it is building strong navy.

all island belong to china because of history. all countries want to fight china for the islands did not exist in history. the island belong to china since han dynasty!! no filipine in that time!!

Who would install a complete avionics suite on an aircraft that has flown just few dozens of flights in one prototype before? Get real, guys..

it is no prototype because in China many thing is secret. that mean when the photo of airplane is flying, that mean it is not really the first time but more advance stage ready to show to the publics. prototype of J-20 was already starting in secret away from photographer. the model flying is the preproductions model. that why J-20 flying in full paint and markings and radar not unpaint like Russian stealth jet.

maybe in 2015 we see first squadron of J-20 while russian stealth jet have to go through the redesigns because its body is breaking. maybe 2025 for them. American JSF also 2020 because of money problem

Something I found curious, both India and Pakistan went for GSh-23-2 for Tejas and JF-17.

In India’s case, there already had many aircraft with the gun, so it makes sense.
Why did Pakistan/China choose it? Are they buying new ones directly from Russia?

Pakistan do not have advance science skill like China because its society is religious one not scientific one, so China have to help them build aircraft, tank, nuclear weapon. China respect the path Pakistan choosed, but also acknowledge Pakistan need help to develop science. But Pakistan cannot be 100 percent trusted because they work with US too, so cannot send stealth fighter or half stealth fighter like J-10 so China help Pakistan make their own line of weapon that why Pakistan usually do not use same equipment like China air force.

lol i laugh. China no need to copy Russian anymore. J-20 is proof China surpass Russia in airplanes. China decide to go full 100% original design and 100% stealth. Russia decide to make stealth flanker instead.

why china need buy su35? they can make true stealth fighter already. Russia cannot make true stealth fighter yet that is why su50 look so similar to su27. only half stealthy but J-20 is almost full stealthy. i admit, only engine is weak area.