Sorry, I still don’t understand, as said before, if this can be done in the video link below, ( the commentary says the passengers in the back didn’t spill their drinks) what would have been so different in a Vulcan ? Why would the scanner topple, when the ball on the string below the tea stays suspended, even when upside down ?
Hi there
Some time ago I was told that during WW2, either a FW190 or Me109 crashed into marshland near Lower Way, Thatcham, BERKS and that the bulk of the aircraft was still down there as it was almost impossible to remove at the time (and probably now too).
This story came up again recently on FB and I wondered if anyone on here had the resources to check if there is any truth in the story?
Many thanks
Nick
Lower way is less than a mile north as the crow flies & 3 miles by road from Greenham Common
A lot of the land near the road has had gravel extracted over the years, so wouldn’t be marsh land ?
Anyone know which bomb groups and airfields are represented?
Adrian
RJ codes are for the 454th Sqn. & WT are the 456th, both of the 323rd bombardment group based at Earls Colne & Beaulieu, then France. The white bar on the upper part of the tails on all the aircraft is the 323rd’s id, ‘the White tails’
Probably best you acquaint yourself with the location of Portland then. It’s well off the beaten track, not easy to get to (either then, or now) and the only gate guardian it ever had, of sorts, was a Wasp. And that was towards the end of its existence.
No Attackers are recorded as being anywhere near Portland.
I can remember reading about a Sea Vixen that was put in the harbour next to Portland RNAS for dive practice, a bit bigger than a Attacker. I could never find any info of it being removed, when the water was clear enough I used to look for it when windsurfing there, never found it.
Well spotted, Mike. Pretty sure its from the same crash and may of been one left over inside the aircraft from a previous mission. Also interesting is the fact that I’ve found far more cases than heads, but all except the one shown are in a pretty bad state!
Rob
It could have been a gunnery training mission ?
For those still questioning if it is a fake .
Evidence
The provenance provided for the piece for sale is the old black & white framed photo
The piece for sale & the piece in the photo ARE NOT THE SAME,
but the old provenance photo & the RAFM piece ARE THE SAME
So you have 2 choices
1/ the piece for sale is fake
or
2/ the old photo & the RAFM piece are fake
So what do you think is the real piece ?
I quite like it BUT it is a question as to whether it is fake or real that’s the issue
100% FAKE
As side slip said, they are different, enlarging both the eBay item & the black & white provenance provided in the eBay ad. you can clearly see that they are not the same ‘painting’.
The b&w pic. in the eBay ad. IS of the RAFM piece.
Got to agree with Matt, the draughtsman/ artist in me was screaming no, the angles are all wrong before I read Matts post.
The Tarmac in the foreground as I mentioned before is unusual with the concrete blister floor which appears to carry on beyond the other side of it, possibly suggesting the taxiway entrance is the other side, which then leads to the question, why the Tarmac ? Connecting with another bit of older taxiway/perimeter track ?
A couple of thoughts on the unusual location of the blister hanger. They we’re usually located away from permanent buildings, this one clearly is not as the picture is taken through a building window. I think we are looking at the rear of the blister which would normally be grass/nothing, but this is tarmac (?), you can just I think make out the concrete taxiway coming in from the other side & being the blister floor which is normal for them.
Re. Chipping Warden, did it have blisters ? The only list of buildings for it I could find says none, just because there is one now doesn’t mean it couldn’t have been brought in & erected by a farmer after the airfield closed.
From Classic Wings Magazine facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/ClassicWingsMagazine?fref=nf
In our previous issue we broke the news that a previously ‘extinct’ Martin Maryland is awaiting salvation in Africa, in the hope that someone with the means and the diplomatic skills can recover it – either as a project for themselves, or as a trade with an interested museum. Of the latter, at least one national collection had made a commendable effort to secure the wreck, but with a limited budget ( typical of most national museum’s) were unable to continue the quest. Hopefully someone else can take up the challenge, and this rare piece of history will not be lost for good.
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IIRC the FR9 was thought almost extinct (with Newark’s the sole survivor) until the re-discovery of the Ecuadorian aircraft
Plus 1 or 2 in Syria amongst the F8’s maybe ? http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?101479-Meteors-found-in-Syria
R J Coley and Sons, scrap dealer are still going, but now based in Bristol. They seem to have had a number of yards in the past. They may be able to help with their history.
Thanks for that, still at the same location in Bristol
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There was a Coleys American car scrap yard in Hays (next to the M4 at Heathrow) up to the mid ’90’s, any relation ?
Not a rare engine per se being a Merlin, and being greedy by picking a pair, but two of them strapped to a sea hornet would be a sight to behold
The Merlin’s on the Hornet are rare though as they are a special streamlined version (unique block). IIRC only about 10 are known to to exist
To add a little bit to the story of the brand new wireless sets being dumped down mine shafts, when it became more widely known within the Ministry there was disquiet because the sets were still in their cartons – no-one had given any thought to the value of cartons!
Now, how about 256 tons of “wheels and aircraft parts” from the Dunlop Rim and Wheel Co. Ltd, Coventry? Gotta be a few spade grips and gun buttons in that lot surely: nice little project for someone in the South Staffs area? 😉
From ‘Britain from above’ “Scrap processing on the site of Cannock Chase Collieries, Chasetown, 1949” Clearly in the picture (link below) can be seen aircraft wheels/tyres + piles of other stuff spread over a large area, I wonder where it all ended up ?
http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/eaw024542?search=scrap&ref=34
bigger detailed pic in link above