I don’t really understand the news story? Are they saying the UK is now only getting 8 MR4A’s instead of 9? I hope not this is a disater.
Or is it saying the MOD are going to have 11 MR4’s and one development aircraft is getting dumped?
I’ve got a nasty feeling its the first one.

The RAF are getting 9 MRA4 production aircraft. PA3 (ZJ517) was inserted into the production programme as corrosion was found on the MR2 airframe earmarked for conversion (PA12 XV246/ZJ525)
PA4 (ZJ514) was delivered to Warton last week to the transition programme. It will go to Kinloss in the summer I believe. PA5 (ZJ515) is currently being painted at Manchester airport. PA1 (ZJ516) and PA2 (ZJ518) are currently parked at Woodford.

So our armed forces are fighting for what again? Democracy? Freedom of speech? Except in this guy’s case obviously. You might not agree with what he says but he still has a right to say it.
What of the Forces Recruitment Services sending the e-mails to the Sun – not exactly the act of a professional organization was it?

Chox,

The jack may be there as a result of the structural tests e.g stress jacking the wing.

Also, where did your assumption that the chaps there are mostly ex-Hatfield? That may be true of 20 years ago but not so now. Several rounds of redundancies and the closure of the civil manufacturing program sorted that out. 🙁

As for the dwindling number of Vulcans, how many museum examples have perished in the last 10/15 years? Not many. Their upkeep is down to us visiting and funding their preservation. XM603 never had that luxury. So let’s support the many good examples in museums and use 603’s parts to help them.

Cheers.

I’m afraid that Chox is talking rubbish as usual, there are no ex-Hatfield management in charge at Woodford and haven’t been for some time – if ever. (As an ex-Hatfield person I find his comments insulting anyway). What is also forgotten is the support BAE have given to XH558.
As far as I can gather, the aircraft was left in a poor state and in this litigant society, BAE was not willing to take the chance on injuries or worse not happening.

There are 18 or 19 Vulcans preserved – not bad out of 130 odd made.

I’ll be sad to see it go – I’ve seen it every working day for the last 20 years but it has been deteriorating for a while now and is becoming an eyesore.

Venables and Thompson did.

Regards,

kev35

And we regard them as the epitome of evil. What does that make those advocating state sponsored murder of children?

Is it not the fact that these cases are highlighted because they are unusual?

Tony Martin did his best to correct that failing amongst the local pikey kids and got chucked into prison for his pains.

Moggy

He got “chucked into prison” for manslaughter. It wasn’t necessary to kill anyone. No-one has the right to mete out that sort of “justice”.

1950s Scotty Moore
1960s Jimi Hendrix
1970s Brian May
1980s The Edge
1990s Kurt Cobain
2000s Jack White

He hasn’t been acquitted (and rightly so) his sentence has been reduced. If we allow members of the public to beat offenders senseless in the street when they have ceased to be a threat, then we are heading rapidly to anarchy. Why did Mr Hussain call his brother first and not the police? Was revenge rather than justice uppermost in his mind? That’s is no way for a criminal justice system to work.