Next up is a tail wheel unit. Unknown type.
They’re alright I suppose. And I’m not jealous either – wouldn’t want a flight in a stupid old Lancaster anyway ๐ (Takes ball home and sulks….)
Peter, thanks for that. It is indeed that bolingbroke, 9041. And you’re correct it did have a P40 prang – as can be seen around the nose area. It also served on anti-sub patrols too so has an operational history.
We have a fair amount of history on her but any supplementary info appreciated.
Moggy
Are you going over in a civvy vehicle or military one?
Blairgowrie,
Read the thread with interest. If you search “Heston” on this forum site you’ll find a couple of photos I’ve posted of the airfield, post ww2. I’ve also sent a PM.
I’ve had more great landing ruined by the runway than I can count. :D[/QUOTE]
Know what you mean WD! The mighty ERJ may have a firm u/c but I always found it landed heavier from the R/H seat ๐
Bmused 55 – my comment about a normal approach wasn’t meant to sound critical. Surprisingly, the ERJ has the same x-wind limits as most major “big boys” – 35 kts. I guess it looks a bit more pronounced low down in a smaller jet. There is of course the possibility that the photo shows a couple of my colleagues over correcting for wind but I doubt that is very likely ๐
Just as an aside, it’s quite exciting to pop out of cloud at 500 ft on the ILS expecting to see the runway ahead and find it’s only visible out of the side DV window!
There’s a Dutch airline that use the call sign “Dutch Bird” which is always mildly amusing if it’s a female crew member calling on the r/t.
Perfectly acceptable approach wouldn’t you agree WD?
The downside of the ERJ’s swept wing means you can only kick straight immediately prior to touchdown as opposed to the more traditional turbo-prop/piston cross control wing-down technique. It takes a while to make the transition but is perfectly okay once you get the hang of it.
The “unlevelled” runway is also normal. I can’t think of a perfectly flat runway that I’ve ever operated from. Some are worse than others. At MAN for example, at the end of 24R you can’t see over the hump to the end of the runway!
P7966 was named Manxman and was paid for by the Isle of Man Spitfire fund, which paid for 3 Spitfires in total. Bader did indeed fly this aircraft. if you check Osprey’s Spitfire Aces Mk1/11 book you’ll see a few more details. I’ll post them here tomorrow. I’ll also dig out what info I have on the aircraft – all 3 Manx Spitfires have been researched extensively by my colleague from the Manx Aviation Preservation Society, Steve Poole.
Check out the following link:
http://www.maps.iofm.net/manxman.htm
And I quote:
This aircraft (P7966) was one of the first to carry Wing Commander Douglas Baderโs initials on the fuselage โ it was also a Presentation Spitfire from the Manx Public, wearing the legend โManxmanโ in 4โโ high yellow letters, below the cockpit on its starboard side.
It was built as a MkIIa, at Vickers-Armstrongs Castle Bromwich Factory and delivered to 45 Maintenance Unit on 24th February, 1941. Then it was issued to 616 Squadron as part of the Tangmere Wing on 23rd March, 1941, where it was flown by Wing Commander Douglas Bader up to July 1941 and remained with 616 Squadron until August 1941. (The aircraft that Douglas Bader bailed out of over France in August 1941 being a Mk Va Spitfire W3185 Lord Lloyd I).
Two other presentation Spitfires from the Manx Community were Spitfire Mk Ia R7131 wearing the legend โPresentationโ and Spitfire MkIIa P7922 wearing the legend โMan of Metalโ.
[QUOTE=srpatterson]Now that you mention it, I did meet this strange fellow in England who claimed to be a famous Rearwin Cloudster pilot…what’d ya think?
Sure he wasn’t just a rear gunner? ๐ ๐
I can now provide conclusive proof……
Snoopy vs The Red Baron
Achtung, jetz wir ssingen ssusammen die Geschichte over den schweinkopfigen Hund und dem lieben Red Baron …
After the turn of the century
In the clear blue skies over Germany
Came a roar and a thunder man had never heard
Like the screaming sound of a big war bird
Up in the sky, a man in a plane
Baron von Richthofen was his name
Eighty men tried, and eighty men died
Now they’re buried together in the countryside
Chorus:
Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was running up the score
Eighty men died trying to end that spree
Of the Bloody Red Baron of Germany
In the nick of time, a hero arose
A funny-looking dog with a big black nose
He flew into the sky to seek revenge
But the Baron shot him down; “Curses, foiled again!”
Chorus
Now Snoopy swore he’d get that man
So he asked the Great Pumpkin for a new battle plan
He challenged the German to a real dogfight
While the Baron was laughing, he got him in his sight
The Bloody Red Baron was in a fix
He tried everything but he’d run out of tricks
Snoopy fired once and he fired twice
And the Bloody Red Baron went spinning out of sight
Chorus
Chorus
Chorus
Plus:
Some roaring of planes, machine-gun fire, Germans shouting “eins-zwei-drei-vier” etc.
Strangely enough, the song was banned in the U.S. and on BBC – because of the word “bloody” which is considered undecent. So when you listened to a broadcast of it in the 60’s you would hear “… the -beep- Red Baron of Germany … “. In their second song on the Red Baron (see below) the singers knew better – the Baron is, of course, going to go “to hell” (another undecent word).
Should anyone require the song contact me via PM
The really “Good” news is there were 2 sequels!
I guess a short answer would be yes! I’ve not heard of one on quite such a grand scale as that in the UK but I’ve heard plenty of tall stories – “line shooting” veterans call it. My own grandfather was guilty of it. He served in the Rifle Brigade in WW2 and it’s a little unclear how or why but he somehow was left in the UK when his unit went overseas to N. Africa and suffered heavy losses. In his latter years I found out a number of people who thought he’d been part of the “Desert Rats” and he basked in a bit of that reflected glory. No sinister intent was behind it and after he died I wondered why the “fibs”. I’ve come to the conclusion that it was partly guilt and partly a desire to have “Been there”. I guess his war was quite “unexciting” as he had not been in combat and perhaps he felt guilty about it, especially when fellow soldiers in his unit had, and been killed.
Apart from my grandfather, I’ve met quite a few veterans who exaggerate or just plain lie. Mostly there are elements of truth but perhaps their memories are just plain bad – tell a fib often enough and you can’t remember if it’s true or not. I think the common reason is they honestly feel they didn’t do enough when compared to others. One particular fighter pilot I know told me how he was in the Battle of Britain, was a test pilot and was shot down and a POW. Sadly in my excitment to research his career, I’ve gradually been able to disprove most of his claims, yet he did indeed fly fighters on active service which personally as a listener I found exciting enough. I’ve not been so rude as to challenge him over it as the is no harm done or maliciouness intended. To be honest I can understand how it annoys those who truly have done those deeds but for those who tell the tall tales, by and large I feel quite sorry for them that they don’t feel there contribution was good enough – check Sperry’s genuine record – pretty interesting in it’s own right.
“There I was, upside down – nothing on the clock but the maker’s name – and that was in German…” is a well used phrase for when you think someone’s line shooting. There’s even a book about with the same title. So back to the original question, I think it happens in the UK and is quite common.
As has been mentioned, the more modern self proclamed “heroes” tend to have an ulterior motive, which is far more worrying. That said, one of my senior SAS contacts, a former RSM and anti-terrorist instructor, told me that even within the regiment there’s a few who like to over-state their case, particularly where the Iranian embassy is concerned. As he told me, if everyone who says they were there actually was, then there was probably 2000+ guys abseiling off the roof tops!
It’s an age old problem and one which will probably never go away. People always want to be something they’re not.
And for the record, I’ve never served in the forces, ex-Air Cadet was the nearest I got although I did get a nasty splinter once from a door frame ๐ My profile is genuine! (But then I would say that, wouldn’t I….?!!)
Served a full 21 years? That’s quite a harsh sentence even for a scouser! ๐ ๐
First solo was in a PA-28, 31-12-97 @ BAe Prestwick. Even had a birdstrike to make it more exciting. The best way to begin my New Year celebrations.
Almost 3000 hrs later I still get a buzz every time but you never ever forget that first one – I was still “flying” 24 hours later! Never mind a can of Red Bull, the real thing is the only way to go.
Well done, and here’s to more for you.