Registered in Sweden, but it’s the Norwegian branch of Biltema that bought her. She’s meant for Norway. Both are correct, but I’d say she’s to be
put in under “Norway”.
Thanks for that – does this apply to both Biltema Spitfires?
cover-to-cover news and articles about Spitfires/Mustangs or other WW2 onwards warbirds –
Only reason to buy them 😀
cover-to-cover news and articles about Spitfires/Mustangs or other WW2 onwards warbirds –
Only reason to buy them 😀
I think it’s been mentioned that the Mossie being rebuilt in New Zealand at the moment is being sold to the USA. But at some point in the gap between it leaving New Zealand after rebuild and arriving in the US they would like to have it in the UK for a season. Although how much truth there in this I don’t know!
Cheers, Huw:)
Huw, its owned by a US organisation, The Fighter Factory/Military Aviation Museum and has been since the re-build started. Getting it in to the UK is something that is being considered as a possibility but a few shows ‘down under’ will be the first priority.
There will be a new musueum building going up next year (in appropriate period style), next to the current one, to house the WWI types, designed by Steven Atkin Architects 🙂
Will it be an authentic Yak 11 paint scheme or a fighter scheme from another type?
We would not want to dissapoint you! 😉 I quote:
“The chosen paint scheme for the aircraft is to be that of a VVS Yak-11 which was prepared for a postwar Communist Parade in Russia in the late-‘40’s by students at a technical school. This represents White ‘52’, the scheme of a WWII VVS Yak fighter.”
Thanks for the info MarkV, much appreciated. In that case it’ll be even lovelier! As I said, no disrespect intended, I was just thinking it would look rather dashing in the red & white scheme.
Non taken 🙂
I don’t wish to ‘diss’ the owner’s choice of paint job, but it looks very similar to other Yak-11’s already flying.
It will not look the same as others, it will be much more historically accurate than most if not all others currently flying, matt paint, correct colour etc.
Gladiators were, in fact, camouflaged in three upper colours. From memory, two shades of green and dark earth. I think this may have been to compensate for the shadow cast by the upper wing.
As far as I am aware that is basically correct Andy – the scheme you are referring to was the ‘Temperate Land Scheme’ in its bi-plane (shadow compensating) application which comprised four colours: Dark Earth & Dark Green (Upper wing and upper parts of fuelage) and Light Larth & Light Green (Lower wing & lower part of fuselage). Looks like Jasper’s photo is a local variation on this concept.
Best reference for it is Camouflage & Markings No.2 The Battle for Britain by Paul Lucas.
Weren’t the Merlins in the Hornet handed? I’m not sure if they count as limited production.
Indeed they were (counter rotating).
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there are quite a few nice shots of her when based there plus some of 2-seater G-AVA and Mk.14 G-FIRE.
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That’s G-AVAV to us spotters Mark V… :p
Theres me dropping me ‘V’s again! 😀 – now corrected. How are things at your end by the way?
Thanks for that. Do you know if she had the wing regs when she had the clipped tips??
Cheers,
J
So many variations on MH434’s 60’s schemes! In the Riding/Peerless book on Elstree there are quite a few nice shots of her when based there plus some of 2-seater G-AVAV and Mk.14 G-FIRE.
The earliest shot shows the ‘shark fin’ scheme with OO-ARA serial (in a hanagar, presumably shortly after her 5/7/63 arrival), the next shot is an air to air taken on 24/8/63 and shows clipped wingtips but with the serial on the sbd wing on a white rectangular background. The elevator tips are dark coloured (presumably blue). Well worth getting a copy of this 2003 book – ISBN 0-7509-3412-3.
..either way that linked thread in Mark V’s post is not about MW404.
Tim
I have removed it – I was guessing!
hi mark that was exactly what i was after 🙂
So realistically in this country, anything massively exotic = no?
No, not quite as simple as that – I said anything exotic that was only partially complete would represent a huge challenge if original drawings were missing. If you have an original aircraft or remains of as a starting point and have drawings available it is possible to re-manufacture parts from those drawings provided you can come up with identical material or prove a substitute material is as good or better. The liklihood with such types as the Do 335 (as opposed to a Spitfire or P-51) is that the original drawings are not readily available and perhaps no longer exist at all. This is the issue that makes restoration of these aircraft (in the UK), from partial remains, so difficult.
I don’t know what it’s like in the UK but we are building an accurate airworthy replica of an He 51 here in Germany and the fact that the type has already flown before is making things rather easy for us.
That would not cut much ice with the CAA – it would still be viewed as a ‘new’ type and cause the same problems mentioned earlier in your post. The authority here in the UK sees a very distinct difference between a replica of ‘warbird x’ and an example of ‘warbird x’ itself, no matter whether or not there were any differences in the parts.
As a consequence, if you have ambitions to fly ‘warbird x’ in the UK under a Permit to Fly (the airworthiness catergory for the operation of ex military aircraft) then you would need to find an example of one or the remains of one in order to register the aircraft and subsequently restore it. The presence or absence of a data plate is not a direct obstical but you would need to know the identity of the airframe or remains thereof in order to register it. The re-build of said warbird then needs to be carried our by (or under the direct supervision of) an organisation holding CAA A8/20 E4 certification which allows the to make the AAN application for the issue of the first Permit. Subsequent renewals can be carried out by CAA M5 maintenance organisations.
So back to the original question, to what extent does the existance of the original manuals and drawings really matter. That depends to a large degree on how much of the original aircraft remains. If it was something truly exotic such as the Do 335 mentioned earlier that was partially complete I think you would have a near impossible task on your hands in the UK. Some degree or reverse engineering is permissable, with logic, stress calculation and material analysis but you could easily get to the stage where there is a mountain to climb. Of course in the US its a different picture so long as you are happy with registration in the Experimental catergory.