I managed to get to the National Archives today (for the first time in 30 years!) and accessed 1690 BDTF’s ORB. It contains very few references to the aircraft used, except for the following interesting paragraph
“In accordance with instructions received from Headquarters Bomber Command, consequent upon the reduction of the establishment of the aircraft of the Flight, disposal instructions were asked for 8 Spitfire aircraft, 6 Martinet aircraft and 1 Tiger Moth. By the end of the month disposal instructions had been received in respect of 8 Spitfire aircraft, 2 Martinet aircraft and 1 Tiger Moth. The number of aircraft held on charge at the end of the month was 12 Hurricanes, 3 Spitfires, 1 Tiger Moth, 8 Martinets.”
Can anyone make any suggestions as to the likely identity of any of these aircraft please? Any suggestions, including further avenues of research would be very welcome. Thanks in advance. Andrew
I’ve just checked, and the RR Vulture engine with a contra-prop was fitted to Hawker Tornado R7936, in 1942.
OH! It seems that it did!!
I have a couple of photos that might of interest, from the last time I said goodbye, but can someone explain how I post them please?? The attach throught he browse thinggummy doesn’t seem to work…..
When doing some research on the Vulture engine, at RR Derby in early Eighties, I recall that one of the Henley Vulture test beds flew with a contract-prop and I have often wondered if it was a first. Can anyone confirm or comments on this please? I think it was a Vulture V engine, which was producing over 2000 HP.
Just “bumping this up”, in the hope that someone can throw some light on the presentation Spitfires. I’m really hoping for the odd photo, but think I’m being a bit optimistic!
Well, after a bit of poking about on the internet, it seems that two of the Spitfires that may have been atached to the unit were both named ‘gifts of war presentation aircraft’, and were Spitfire IIa P8177, named “North Borneo II” and Spitfire IIa/b P8503 named “Sky Scraper”. I wonder if anyone knows any more about them?
I also wonder if the Tiger Moth was the one that was previously flown by Gp Captain ‘Bill’ McKecknie, the Station Commander who was killed in action on 11 November 1943? Again -any information would be welcomed.
I’m hoping to visit the NA at Kew by the end of the month and, if I do, will look up Moggy’s reference. Thanks again to all.
Thanks to all for your responses so far. I don’t remember using ‘The Airfields of Lincolnshire’ but I knew Mike Hodgson very well at the time, so I’m sure he would haveh helped me if he could. I THINK I looked at the ORB when I did my research, but it was 30 years ago! However, I may well now follow Moggy’s link and get a copy. I will also have to get hold of Chorley’s book. I do have a copy of Richard Bailey’s book and am listed in its credits. I also recovered a wuite large panel from a Lancaster, which I believe may have been from ‘Nick’ and went to LARG, but I have been unable to trace it since. I will certainly look out for the photo of Les Munro with a 1690 BDTF aircraft. Thanks again to all!
I believe that the unit used a wide range of aircraft types. Surely someone on here knows something about it?
Thanks guys, this all makes sense, would be great if someone could post some photos.
Cheers John – success at last! Do you have any idea which aircraft they were?
Surely someone else saw them? Probably near Bracknell?
Saw about five biplanes together, somewhere around Bagshot or Reading. (Not sure where I was, as I was driving and blindly following the Satnav!) Anyone know anything about them?
Dambuster’s March , Enemy Coast Ahead and an airworthy Avro Lancaster!
Spitfire Wheels-up Landing?
I’m sure that I read somewhere that the ‘Spitfire’, which did a wheels up landing recently, was actually a replica. Can anyone confirm, deny or clarify please?