crazymainerFluffy,
Then explain to me when I spoke with the Dept. Director for CWH she flat out said in no certain words that the Lanc would and I repet would never leave North America, you might have been talking with the pilots and mechs. but I and other here in North America where talking with the folks who would give the final go and they where telling us that it wasn’t going to happen.
And for the record sir I might seem to be some dumb Yank and you might think I don’t know what is going on but I can tell you this when something like this breaks I have no problem picking up the phone a calling to say hey this is being report is this true.
You might think about give some of us Yanks a benifit of the doult ever once and awhile.
dhfan,
Like I stated in the last post read between the lines this was become a problem for the CWH because they where starting to get question on why they wouldn’t bring the Lanc. to North American show that have come up with the Money while the internet/Avaition Mags where reporting that the Lanc was going to England. They need to save face end of story, look I would love to have seen the Lanc go over but I knew it would never happen been involved with a few Airshow here in North America and knowing the Leadership of CWH mindset this was a fairytell at best. What really needs to be address here is when and if not when why won’t the CWH bring the Lanc. to select North American shows(please don’t tell me about the engine and time on airframe crap)the money is their.
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crazymainerOf course I realise that. My point is still valid though so I’ll repeat it……
Unless any such endeavour is going to privately funded it is going to need the support in terms of both publicity and funding of enthusiasts and communities such as this. This takes time to build. See Merlins over Malta for example…….
Dave,
With all do respect it was reported by someone who(and correct me if I’m wrong here)is part of the BoB fligth that they where going to have two Lancs. for the bog fly over and that the CWH plane was going to be come.
It got reported in the Aviation Mags and has been the talk of the internet, not only here and wix but other historical aircraft site.
When I and a few others who know folks at CWH gave them a call to confirm this we where all told in no uncertain words that No the Lanc is’nt going to be going to England. As for the Collings Foundation B-24 I knew right away that this was a false story see I live here in Maine and Collings is out of Stow Mass. I happen to know most if not all f the Collings folks and when Ryan put out a Statement saying that the 24 isn’t come over you guys in the UK seem not let it die.
Beleive me folks when and if there is another Bomber tour in the UK it will be announce in the Press with all the fain fair. All I can say is please try to give us Dumb Yanks some credit when we hear of something like the Lanc come over we are going to make inquiriers.
crazymainerWithout checking Rob, what I believe you were saying was that CWH would never let their aircraft cross the atlantic. What was in fact the case is that it would have happened if the necessary money had been raised. Two different things.
And I quote from a previous thread.
That was clearly not the case. Do you agree?
MOTF,
In all of my post on the CWH Lanc. I said that I had spoken with the Dept. Director and she told me straight out that the Lanc would not be come over. If you read between the lines of their post you will get what alot of us are being told since this letter came out, which is look folks yea it was brought up but it was never going to happen becasue we never take the Lanc anywhere in North America. By releasing the official press release they save face for them and BoB Flight. Lets face it folks they got alot of you UK folks all excited for nothing.
The first discussion of this should have been sort like this.The BoB Flight has approuch CWH about maybe bring over their Lanc. not was originally posted. When I and many other said that their would be Snowball Hell chance of the Lanc. going to England we where look appound as your full of it because we have been told it is going to happen.
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crazymainerHi All,
Thanks I do own Rogers book great referance but a bit dated I think, what I was looking for was I recall reading either here or in FP about a guy with a R44 that was going to each airfield and taking video for a upcomming Video does this ring a bell with anyone.
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crazymainerCrazymainer: You are not wrong, but do bear in mind, Rob is a low hour student. It is quite possible that the instructor had him concentrating intensely on just the VOR lesson for an hour.
A good instructor will realise that this is tiring for a student and may well have relieved him of his spacial awareness duties, in the name of safety. All things in good time. I’m sure there will be many opportunities to concentrate on that another time.
My concern is him absorbing the failings (stressful talk) of those around him who are more experienced.
Hi Janie,
Thanks, I hope this was just a one time incedent with the instructor and as some other folks have state I might have been a tad hard on the instructor in my post and I want it to be clear that I wasn’t slamming the instructor in anyway.
Mr. Weaver this is not meant to be a slam on you but you really need to think about cockpit managment before during and after your flight. That is why all military pilots have breifs before hand and de-briefs after, that is also why and Janie please correct me if I’m wrong but most Warbird Pilots(I know I do) have de-briefs after flying. You and your instructor should be doing de-briefs after each of your flight to go over the major points of the leason and to highlight areas of conceren, in this case the Twin Beech incedent.
Cheers
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crazymainerYoung Mr. Weaver,
One of the first things that military pilots are taught is Cockpit managment or to use Janie’s words cockpit stress.
More crash happen to the one and simple thing is the pilot lost cockpit managment, lets take the twin from your last flight, first a few question do you remember if the Twin or ATC ask them to extend their base to give you more time to clear the runway, second and this is the most important one when you did your roll out did you use the first avaible turn off or did you decide to use the one ATC gave you. The reason I ask this is because the twin might have been given different instruction then you where given. Now it seems to me that the pilots of the twin handle there cockpit managment the right way I’m guessing these pilots have a few more hours under there collective belt and most likely would have extend or as you said land a tad shorter. Oh by the way what type of Twin Beech was this and I’m sorry but I don’t remember what you where flying so unless you where flying a T-6 or better you should have been able to clear the active in due time for the Twin to cross the numbers.
I’m not trying to critize you Mr. Weaver but think about what you did in the cockpit and what was said between you and ATC and ground ATC and then think about how you could have handle it better you might also want to sit down and have a talk with your intsructor about what transpired. If your instructor doesn’t feel its something to talk about then I would be looking for a new instructor, cockpit managment is the most important thing your instructor can teach you.
End of Lecture 🙂 😀
Cheers
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crazymainerI understood that some of the private funding for the AAM came from an American Company that were Democrats and did not want to paint the aircraft’s Nose Art due to its apparent support of a Republican General, All be it from the Civil War.
Wrong Sir,
Alot of Money came from many different Private American Companys I know that are Family company ROHR gave some for the AAM when companys where ask to give money they were’nt ask what would you like the US Planes painted up as I can assure you that.
As for Sherman being a Republican thats rich Gen T. Sherman was quote many times that he didn’t belong to any political party and strongly beleived that Military Officers should stay out of the Political Areana. This was a swipe at Gen. U.S Grant who would become Pres. Grant.
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crazymainerJDK,DaveM2,
Yep got my planes mix up Kermit is CASA-2.111 DB.21-37 G-AWHB, while we are talking about CASA aircraft what happen to David Tallichet aircraft.
Also since we are talking about axis aircraft that survive after the War, their are quite a few buired at NAS Pax River.
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crazymainerThanks Crazymainer. I had a sneeking suspicion it may be wise to check.
Now I’d love to see Patty lomcovak her T6!!
😮
Janie,
Now that would be something to see, but knowing her she would give it a go,I sure do miss the old T-6 thru.
Cheers
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crazymainerThere was a Casa 2-111 (He111) at duxford sitting on the grass just east of hangar 1. This was a couple of years ago and I believe it was owned by the OFMC. This Casa had no engines or outer wings (poss in storage) but looked quite complete and capable of being restored to flying condition. I don’t know if it’s still at Duxford or whether it’s moved on.
Hi Plane Mad,
That aircraft is now owned by Kermit Weeks and is presently in storage at Polk City Florida also there is another CASA 2-111 being rebuild to airworthy status for Cavanaugh Flight Musuem.
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crazymainerDiana Britten & Patty Wagstaff are superb, but not warbird pilots, as far as I know. I’m happy to be corrected.
Hi Janie,
Patty owns a T-6G that she does take to some Air Shows in the Pacific Northwest of the USA.
Cheers
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crazymainerWingnut,
Now I remember the thread, I would say that your field must be in the top 20 in Europe why not ask UNESCO to look into it for you guys(before you all jump down my throught think about it).
Let me do some research for you over the few nights and see what I can shake up for you.
Cheers
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crazymainerPatty Wagstaff Not only is she a World Aerobatic champion but she also owns a T-6G that used to be at Owls Head Transportation Musuem, then their is Julie Clarke who does Airshow Demos in her T-34B Mopar Special, then their is the #2 Pilot (can’t remember her name) of the Northern Lights she use to fly a Stearman and a Chippie, and finally for now I can throw my sister in also since she solo on her 16th Birthday in the familys L-4 and right now she flys F-16 for a living.(Yea I’m proud of my little Sister 😀 )
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crazymainerWhat are they doing out of the kitchen? :confused: 🙁 :p
DBW,
What a sexist assinine responce 😡
crazymainerWingnut,
Let me do a search on Wix for you, I think we finally did establish which was the oldest Air Field by Countrys.
Do you remember when you did the thread so I can check in the new search engine or go to the old files.
Cheers
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