Hi,

It appears to be a Nieuport Monoplane and if so the two Gentlemen are Charles and Edourd de Nieuport.

RER

Hi All,

Well let me jump into this as someone who as had a hand in restroing three HISTORIC AIRCRAFT.

When My Father and I rebuild my old Tiger Moth we start out with basically a tube airframe and some rather tattered Wings. We rebuild the plane using original wood IE New wood but the kind used in the original construction, we also used Grade A Linnen yes it cost a bit more but I want it to be as close to the original. Now for the Cockpit we installed a transponder and a small radio for SAFETY. So does this make are Moth Non-Hisrorical because we choose to install some safety items.

The way I see it is this way just has long as you try to use the right materials when avaible then its a True rebuild.

I have a question for all of you I was ask by a friend of mine to help him build a WWI aircraft he has a refurbished WWI Instrument, he has a complete Tail feathers,Landing Gear and a Top Wing plus alot of bits and peices, He plans on using the original type wood along with Grade A Cotton so what are you going to call hos aircraft a replica or a rebuild to original standers. My thought is the later.

Overt to you guys.

RER

I finally purchased this superb book via ebay last year, its by far the most expensive book i have ever purchased. If you ever see a copy, buy it.

Septic.

Hi All,

Another of Martin books to have if you don’t have is,

Ragwing and Heavy Iron,

The book details the purchase of his Ju-52 Iron Annie and also has stuff on the B-17 flight plus it gives you and inside to the early warbird movement as it goes from a Good Old Boy Club to a serious adventure, I highley recommend it to anyone.

Cheers
RER

[QUOTE=Wrenchbender

That is my neck of the woods Rob, it was called Freeman field down by French lick, Indiana. I was down there several times and all they found were a few parts and some at a local dump. There is the remains of a PT-19 in a local forest that was dumped for the civil air patrol to find[/QUOTE]

Freeman field yes that the place, if I remember right they found all sorts of Germand stuff including a complete Fin some engines and other bits and peices.

Now for the PT-19 is it still thier and could we swap it for a Spam Can.

Also Wrenchbender it looks like we are going to try to have some sort of gathering in Nov with the North East Wix patrol just a heads up.

Cheers Crazymainer

OK A Yank view

Hi All,

Have just read all of thr post on this thread an knowing alittle about preservation. First these poor misgiude soles should be taken to the Vulcan camp and say if you want to some thing to fly this is the plane not a Bloody Airliner.

I really feel sorry for all the musuems that have been sadle with these White Elephants it seems to me that they are drainig money and time from items that should have a more higher priorty then them.

Here in the States we have this desert Air Field that is full of long and forgotten Airlines including are the last DC-8s, Convair 770/880 do you hear any of us screaming to put them back in the Air Hell No why because its not Cost doesn’t make since.

maybe we should contact these people and have them read these post and have a talk with us who operate large aircraft and explain to them this is a pipe dream and they should re-direct the enegery towards helping with the ground airframes.

As for being put back in Air Service I know that here in the States their Certific for Airworthness was cancel two weeks after the last flight. To get it reissue would be next impossiable now.

If anyone really wants to put a Concord Style Aircraft in the Air they should come up with something that can cut 15 hours off the Pacific Flights.

Well thats my 2cents.

Cheers Crazymainer

I wonder how much it would cost to own a warbird T-33? In my opinion, it’s a perfect warbird plane. Fast, agile, very aerobatic, and a legend in its own time. Plus it was based on the F-80, which was the first operational USAF jet.

Hi Phantom,

Is not the operational Cost that would kill you but the Insurance mind you I remind you of the Sacromental Ice Cream Palore crash.

You might want to pm Mr. Patterson and ask him what it cost him to operate his Mig.-17 here in the States.

Cheers Crazymainer

Now the Real reason

OK AVM Parker,

The Real Reason you are going to Nam is to try to find that Package you sent to me before you left to go to Jolly Good Old England. :p :diablo:

Oh yea their was something about Bearcats and Japaness Aircraft that you and I talk about alos but it just seems that I can’t remember what it was funny that way 😮

I’ll call you at work later today or tommorow.

Cheers The Col.

Incidentally, the Operations Officer of the 379th at the time was a Lt Col Louis ‘Rip’ Rohr. A relation I believe of a certain member of our little congregation who writes from Maine each evening.
Cheers
Andy

Hi Andy,

Now who could tha happen to be :p speaking of Col. Rohr if everything goes right I’m going to be seeing his daughter over the Hoildays.

Cheers Crazymainer