Hi Steve,

Great topic,

Lets see if I can put this into a Yank view. Reguadless of what the US Navy says they must also follow US DEP regs. with this in mind there is an effort to recover three F4F and atleast one corsair because of the problem you have brought up.

The problem with any recovery is and those of us who have done them can tell you is $$$$$ and time . I was involved with the Qusuant Air Musuems F6F recovery and we were working against the clock that the US Coast guard had given the Musuem. In this case they basically said remove it or we are going to blow it up. the plane was a Hazard to Navagation. If you wouldlike to find out more about QAM recovery feel free to contact me off line becasue their is alot of Politics involved.

As for the USS Ariziona the main problem is it listed on the United States Historical Preservation List, this limits what the US Park Service can and can’t do with her. there is some talk of drilling a small hole into the main oil bunkers and drain the oil. but like I said its a rather sticky subject.

I know that I was on a survey of a FAA/RN Corsair that had Live ammo on it and we decide that is was not worth are lives to try to recover or even procede with the operations. I guess when it comes down to live ammo on board I would rather have the Military experts to come in and tell me what they think if they say the best thing to do is to blow it up then I might not agree with it, but I have to look at the over all safety part. I know of three recoverys were the ammo was remove with out any Hitchs. but your right how much longer will some of these Bombs remain stable. Its just a matter of time till one leaks and the right counditions happen and the thing goes off. Lets hope its in deep water .

I don’t know if this helps or just lead to new questions.

Cheers Crazymainer

Hi All,

Eddie, the photo was in Classic Wings, and the reason the nose is Funny is he is build a G-2 not a G-4 which most WWI prints of the Gotha Show.

Cheers CM

Hi Philli,

I can give you these numbers off the top of my head.

To fly the Collings Foundation 17 and 24 its roughtly 2500-3000 US an Hour. If you give me till the end of this week when I’ll be with The Collings Foundation I’ll give you a better break down of Cost.

IE Fuel , Hull Insurance ect.

Cheers

Mark12 Nope

Mark12,

Sorry but not this time, I’ve already start to delete post that I’ve put up.

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He Wouldn’t happen to Be a …………

I have spoken quite recently to a US airline pilot who said that he is rebuilding a Mosquito to fly. He claimed to have the ‘Title’ (if that’s the correct term) to more than one airframe. On the two or three occassions that I have seen him he has been on his way to Salisbury Hall with metal components, cowling parts I think, to get more details & paterns.
I have no other details but he seemed genuine.

Hi HP81,

This Yank wouldn’t happen to be a Delta Pilot?

If he does have clear title then I should be able to pulli tfrom the FAA files.

Cheers Crazymainer

Hi Peter,

I live in Portland Maine but I spend alot of times in the deep woods of are State.

If its close to the shore line then it should be an easy recovery, Hell it looks like the hardest part is on shore. Were is it located in general IE Providance ect. I’m guess its most likely Paper Property and if it is then getting permission to do a recovery is rather easy on that part its getting Ottawas OK that can be sort of Sticky look how long it took to get the 17 out.

Do you know of any Museums that would be interested in the plane? I can give my contacts in the RCAF a ring and see if they would like to do a training operation.

As the old saying goes there is more then one way to Skin at Cat.

Cheers Crazymainer

Hi Stormbird,

No problem if I can find the rest of the photos i took that day I’ll post some more of her. When I was talking to the Restoration guys they told me that they are waiting to here about the chance of getting a new hanger if that Happens then this and The Big Sikorsky are going to be the Main attraction.

I really hope they can get the Funds for the new hanger there are alot of stuff out in the Storage area that could be put out on display if there was room.

Cheers Crazymainer